IainB Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 So much for the new era of transparency in the Premiership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Is my understanding correct that referees are only paid their expenses? If that is the case, I do not think that The SCB should have gone public with the suspension. I’m all for ensuring that correct decisions are made in sport and the referee definitely got things wrong in this meeting, but this could easily have been dealt with internally without having to explain the referee’s absence for a few days. Nobody is going to query this referee’s short officiating absence. If this is the way they treat ‘volunteers’, what a great way to encourage potential officials into the sport! Premier League football refs consistently get brown stuff thrown at them, but they are on £100k a year. I’ve seriously considered taking steps to become a speedway referre myself but this has made me realise how stupid this would be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 6 hours ago, scaramanga said: just seen the statement regarding investigation to this meeting absolute joke 1 meeting suspension for the ref scb have just made themselves look stupid What do you think the outcome should have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I personally think they should have made a comment about coaching or re-training the referee, a one match ban is pointless if he does the same in every meeting. Did they explain to him what he did wrong & what he should have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 7 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Is my understanding correct that referees are only paid their expenses? If that is the case, I do not think that The SCB should have gone public with the suspension. I’m all for ensuring that correct decisions are made in sport and the referee definitely got things wrong in this meeting, but this could easily have been dealt with internally without having to explain the referee’s absence for a few days. Nobody is going to query this referee’s short officiating absence. If this is the way they treat ‘volunteers’, what a great way to encourage potential officials into the sport! Premier League football refs consistently get brown stuff thrown at them, but they are on £100k a year. I’ve seriously considered taking steps to become a speedway referre myself but this has made me realise how stupid this would be. It isn't as if there are "millions of pounds" riding on their decisions is it? Refs in other sports get well paid, and even get someone else watching a monitor to advise them if they get things wrong... Speedway refs are more like "Sunday League" officlals who do it as they enjoy being involved.. And, like it or not, the rewards for winning titles in UK Speedway are more "Sunday League" than even "Conference League".. If they make decisions that could recklessly impact safety of the riders then that is a different issue, and disciplinary action should be taken and be severe.. Otherwise, common sense, and perspective, should be used.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, mikebv said: It isn't as if there are "millions of pounds" riding on their decisions is it? Refs in other sports get well paid, and even get someone else watching a monitor to advise them if they get things wrong... Speedway refs are more like "Sunday League" officlals who do it as they enjoy being involved.. And, like it or not, the rewards for winning titles in UK Speedway are more "Sunday League" than even "Conference League".. If they make decisions that could recklessly impact safety of the riders then that is a different issue, and disciplinary action should be taken and be severe.. Otherwise, common sense, and perspective, should be used.. The starting stick being left in the track and the race not stopped is the only one that would fit that definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, mikebv said: It isn't as if there are "millions of pounds" riding on their decisions is it? Refs in other sports get well paid, and even get someone else watching a monitor to advise them if they get things wrong... Speedway refs are more like "Sunday League" officlals who do it as they enjoy being involved.. And, like it or not, the rewards for winning titles in UK Speedway are more "Sunday League" than even "Conference League".. If they make decisions that could recklessly impact safety of the riders then that is a different issue, and disciplinary action should be taken and be severe.. Otherwise, common sense, and perspective, should be used.. 'Speedway refs are more like "Sunday League" officials who do it as they enjoy being involved..' The day will come when one of the parents from the home team will be expected to take their turn refereeing the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 (edited) 13 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Is my understanding correct that referees are only paid their expenses? They are paid a match fee and traveling expenses that are reimbursed on a pence per mile basis. However, Both categories would accurately come under the term "modest". Edited April 10 by 1 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, 1 valve said: They are paid a match fee and traveling expenses that are reimbursed on a pence per mile basis. However, Both categories would accurately come under the term "modest". It is modest,but imo it is ok.I would be happy.I deliver to a customer who's nephew is a speedway referee and they said he wouldn't do it if he didn't do ok out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, tellboy said: It is modest,but imo it is ok.I would be happy.I deliver to a customer who's nephew is a speedway referee and they said he wouldn't do it if he didn't do ok out of it Good to hear. after all without a referee, there would be no racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 (edited) 13 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I personally think they should have made a comment about coaching or re-training the referee, a one match ban is pointless if he does the same in every meeting. Did they explain to him what he did wrong & what he should have done? Sports governing bodies refrain from providing details relating to findings from an investigation into match officials preferring to limit information to that which would be clearly visible to the public, such as a change of the scheduled match official. This is very much along the lines of disciplinary procedures in the workplace. To be fair to the SCB, they did promptly communicate publicly that the referees actions were to be investigated and subsequently provided the follow up to say that the matter had been dealt with. As part of the hearing, the incident(s) would have been reviewed together with the referee. After due deliberation, the panel would have informed the referee of his mistakes and what the correct course of action/decisions he should have taken. He would also have been given follow up work in terms of revision of rules and procedures etc. The one match ban would be the next match he was listed to officiate which would also provide the time for him to complete his corrective actions. There will also be follow up sessions planned to evaluate the referees performance in future meetings. Edited April 10 by 1 valve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Did the Start Marshal get into trouble? Genuine Question. I seem to recollect an incident of this sort a number of years back at Workington where, if I'm correct, the referee through him out of the meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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