Peter Craven Memorial Trophy - Monday 18th March.

[IainB]

Just now, Dave Jones said:

Well yes quite possibly, but in my case , to watch the meeting last night I had two options 1 travel by car at a high cost for the evening,  2 pay £15 and watch from my armchair . For me it represents good value It's not something I would do regularly but as a one off I have no complaints.

Don't forget the cost of your caviar and chips for 2 

[Dave Jones]

24 minutes ago, therefused said:

or just pay £70 for the year and stream whatever you want 

Dodgy stuff?.no thanks.

[SPD444]

For me, living in North London it would have meant a 180 mile drive (each way), hotel stay, entrance ticket, meal, drinks etc. so £14.99 was very good value plus the ability to watch the team I had lost touch with. I will attend the British Final; SON and hopefully a couple of bank holiday meetings (day trip) because you cannot replicate actually being their.

[lisa-colette]

38 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

As a one off price I thought it was a bit steep and as a result didn't purchase it, would have done at ten-twelve quid probably. Would be interesting to see what the viewing figures are.

As has been said VFM differs from person to person and I expect BSN's costs have increased, like everything else people have a choice to purchase a product or not and its as simple as that really. 

 

29 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

I thought £15 for that was a bit daft as well to be honest so gave it a miss. Some clearly love their speedway more than I do   

For me I compared it to the Championship meetings that are streamed, which last season were £11.99. So there is zero chance they will stream this field at the same price or cheaper with more races as well! 

I also don't think you can compare it to football streams as the demand is so much more for them so can make it cheaper and still make a profit. Maybe compare it to cinema prices at peak times then definitely a bargain! lol 

[arnieg]

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

 

 

Or possibly back wheel

[Arch Stanton]

5 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Or possibly back wheel

Both round what’s the difference  

[B.V 72]

Now we have debated the cost of streaming would anyone like to comment on what they thought about the Peter Craven memorial speedway meeting.

Very enjoyable meeting .Well done Brady great performance a well deserved win, great race in the final between Brady and Dan . Thought the new boys to the Belle vue team Ben and Connor showed great promise for the season ahead.

Got me back in the mood for speedway and now well locking forward to the new season ahead .The performances of all the Belle vue team gives me hope that the new team can make up for the forced weakening of last seasons team down to averages.

[Maxi]

I'm on holiday in Australia so couldn't go - £15 was a steal for me to watch a superb meeting live with the a lot of GP riders included.

I always buy one off matches that I can't go to and never been disappointed

[1 valve]

1 hour ago, Aries said:

That still doesn’t make it good value Dave which ever way you slice it. As you say some want to watch who just can’t get to the meeting for whatever reason so have little choice. For some 15 quid is a drop in the ocean and will think nothing of it and just pay it, none of that still makes 15 quid for a pre-season filler for two hours value for money. Some get Eurosport free with their TV packages, but a lot don’t. But you can sign up for Discovery plus on one of their cheaper packages for £6.99 a month, during the speedway season you’ll get a GP or two, and a couple of Premiership meetings plus any other sport on there that tickles your fancy for the entire month. And that’s without the other channels that come with it that may or may not be of interest. Now that IS value for money and makes 15 quid for one warm up filler seem a bit bonkers. 

Value for money can only be calculated when compared with the next best alternative. You mention the prices of Discovery & Eurosport, but they weren't showing the meeting. The only alternatives to choose from were to go to the actual meeting, watch via BSN or give it a miss. 
No doubt live speedway is (on most occasions) the best alternative for the actual experience, however, the lowest out of pocket cost for two adults to attend would have been around £50.00 whereas via  BSN it was £15.00. 
So for "value for money" comparison. The choices for 2 adults were,  a) attend the live meeting for £50.00, b)stream the event for £15.00 or indeed C)£0.00  to do neither.  
 

[IainB]

20 minutes ago, B.V 72 said:

Now we have debated the cost of streaming would anyone like to comment on what they thought about the Peter Craven memorial speedway meeting.

Very enjoyable meeting .Well done Brady great performance a well deserved win, great race in the final between Brady and Dan . Thought the new boys to the Belle vue team Ben and Connor showed great promise for the season ahead.

Got me back in the mood for speedway and now well locking forward to the new season ahead .The performances of all the Belle vue team gives me hope that the new team can make up for the forced weakening of last seasons team down to averages.

I thought it was enjoyable without being a classic, one thing I did struggle with was 7 Belle Vue riders in the meeting all wearing the same race suit and throw in Woj who was wearing something very similar it was quite difficult at time to tell who was who.

6 minutes ago, Maxi said:

I'm on holiday in Australia so couldn't go - £15 was a steal for me to watch a superb meeting live with the a lot of GP riders included.

I always buy one off matches that I can't go to and never been disappointed

You have kind of answered a question I was asking myself, in I wondered how much the stream was for people not in the UK. When you factor in things like cost of living and average income, I would suspect that £15 for somebody living and working in Poland for example would be quite a stretch.

[SpeedwayTShirts]

Having attended and thoroughly enjoyed it, once totted up, no travel costs, £10 in club first, £27 in, £30 beers and food inside, £10 takeaway on way home.

For £15 on a cold evening I think I'll pay for the extra stream in future, so long as it's cheaper than the entry fee you've got to be on to a winner in my eyes.

[Dickie Head]

4 hours ago, B.V 72 said:

Now we have debated the cost of streaming would anyone like to comment on what they thought about the Peter Craven memorial speedway meeting.

Very enjoyable meeting .Well done Brady great performance a well deserved win, great race in the final between Brady and Dan . Thought the new boys to the Belle vue team Ben and Connor showed great promise for the season ahead.

Got me back in the mood for speedway and now well locking forward to the new season ahead .The performances of all the Belle vue team gives me hope that the new team can make up for the forced weakening of last seasons team down to averages.

Did Sam Hagon and Freddy Hodder do demonstration races and if so how did they look?

[IainB]

18 minutes ago, Dickie Head said:

Did Sam Hagon and Freddy Hodder do demonstration races and if so how did they look?

They did, Hagon won them all as you'd expect, nothing too note worthy, Hagon was well on the pace in Heat 4 though when he came in for Doyley

[OveFundinFan]

4 hours ago, iainb said:

You have kind of answered a question I was asking myself, in I wondered how much the stream was for people not in the UK. When you factor in things like cost of living and average income, I would suspect that £15 for somebody living and working in Poland for example would be quite a stretch.

That obviously implies people living and working in Poland don’t earn a good income yet the commentator said at the beginning of the meeting, as the camera was scanning the back straight stands, some fans had travelled from Poland. So some Polish residents can afford to come to UK for a meeting so a £15 stream must be well affordable.

[OveFundinFan]

Is Sam Hagon any relation to Alf Hagon or his descendants.??

Good to see the young ones shaping so well. Impressed With Cook and the two Connors. Initially looked like Blodorn had took a leap forward. 
Re Celina, she is having a go at a sport she loves, just like many other youngsters. Nothing wrong with that.  How far will she develop……who knows. What I havnt seen in any video clip etc is she mixing it on the first corner (in a tough way). She has got speed and very steady. I give her 10/10 for the courage to have a go.

[IainB]

44 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

That obviously implies people living and working in Poland don’t earn a good income yet the commentator said at the beginning of the meeting, as the camera was scanning the back straight stands, some fans had travelled from Poland. So some Polish residents can afford to come to UK for a meeting so a £15 stream must be well affordable.

Why do you think loads of Polish people have come to Britain to work?

https://livingcost.org/cost/poland/united-kingdom

Just looking at the monthly salary after tax a £15 stream here would be more like a £40 stream in Poland. I wonder how the crowds would be in Poland if they had to pay around £50 entry for every league match 

Edited March 19 by iainb

[StevePark]

45 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

Is Sam Hagon any relation to Alf Hagon or his descendants.??

 

Copied and pasted from the BSPL Riders Index info page:
Son of Martin Peter Hagon (born: 25 December 1961, Hackney, London, England); Grandson of Alfred Joseph Hagon.

[M.D]

1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said:

Is Sam Hagon any relation to Alf Hagon or his descendants.??

 

 

33 minutes ago, StevePark said:

Son of Martin Peter Hagon (born: 25 December 1961, Hackney, London, England); Grandson of Alfred Joseph Hagon.

He's also the son of Charlotte Hagon, Bob Dugard's daughter who is the sister of Martin and Paul Dugard.

Comes from good speedway stock.

[NorthernBee]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned but I believe the streaming cost is fixed in part so that tracks don't end up with empty terraces. A percentage of the cost goes back to the track. That is why the cost is closer to an entrance fee otherwise tracks would never allow streaming. 

[nw42]

4 hours ago, OveFundinFan said:

That obviously implies people living and working in Poland don’t earn a good income yet the commentator said at the beginning of the meeting, as the camera was scanning the back straight stands, some fans had travelled from Poland. So some Polish residents can afford to come to UK for a meeting so a £15 stream must be well affordable.

I doubt very much that any fans actually travelled from Poland just to watch that meeting, more likely they were Poles who actually live and work here, just a bit of journalistic licence by Ian Brannen I reckon.

I paid for the stream, was considering going but ran out of time to get there, so it was a handy option and I saved a few quid as well. Enjoyed the meeting, great to see the main stand looking almost full to capacity.

Can't really blame the ref for Doyle's misfortune in the final, there's no way he could've known that spokes had been shed, nobody came off, so no reason to stop the race.

I thought Max Fricke was the fastest rider on view but, as he and Dan both said, there was little traction to be had in the final and Brady had the best line.

Welcome back speedway.