TMW Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 6/7 from other teams can now guest ?? since when ? It’s always been 3.00 unmatched rider. it’s all starting to unravel and the season hadn’t even started ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 13 minutes ago, TMW said: 6/7 from other teams can now guest ?? since when ? It’s always been 3.00 unmatched rider. it’s all starting to unravel and the season hadn’t even started ! Since they published the new rules yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, TMW said: 6/7 from other teams can now guest ?? since when ? It’s always been 3.00 unmatched rider. it’s all starting to unravel and the season hadn’t even started ! What's unraveling.? Doesn't the regulation say if average same or lower so like for like swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: What's unraveling.? Doesn't the regulation say if average same or lower so like for like swap God help an unattached rider on 3.01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Binman said: God help an unattached rider on 3.01 Exactly this takes away that anomaly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 32 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Exactly this takes away that anomaly Takes away any chance to get a ride in a team 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent10 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 9 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: What's unraveling.? Doesn't the regulation say if average same or lower so like for like swap What it does Andy as you well know because it worked for you (Luke) is that the team missing a res now can cherry pick a res from another team who is flying and yet again a rider trying to get a 1st chance like billy and others won’t be asked, stinks, and you know it, denials only add to the problem, it’s a joke, develop not stagnation, if you are missing a res for god sake who cares, put a kid in, if they are tailed off so what, at least they have had a chance and can assess themselves going forward 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Sargent10 said: What it does Andy as you well know because it worked for you (Luke) is that the team missing a res now can cherry pick a res from another team who is flying and yet again a rider trying to get a 1st chance like billy and others won’t be asked, stinks, and you know it, denials only add to the problem, it’s a joke, develop not stagnation, if you are missing a res for god sake who cares, put a kid in, if they are tailed off so what, at least they have had a chance and can assess themselves going forward Finally we have got to the point 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Oh but remember it's not about winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Sargent10 said: What it does Andy as you well know because it worked for you (Luke) is that the team missing a res now can cherry pick a res from another team who is flying and yet again a rider trying to get a 1st chance like billy and others won’t be asked, stinks, and you know it, denials only add to the problem, it’s a joke, develop not stagnation, if you are missing a res for god sake who cares, put a kid in, if they are tailed off so what, at least they have had a chance and can assess themselves going forward HOw did it work for luke mate he went in as un attached 3 pointer for Mildenhall in 2022 has never had a guest booking at national league level in the reserve berth , if anything this ruling probably would of worked against him if it was in place then . On your point of putting a kid in and who cares if he's tailed off I totally agree as I don't but plenty of fans on here will whine about it saying there not good enough. Edited February 3 by phillwhitewasmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, Binman said: Oh but remember it's not about winning Personally don't think it's about winning it about developing as I've said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent10 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: HOw did it work for luke mate he went in as un attached 3 pointer for Mildenhall in 2022 has never had a guest booking at national league level in the reserve berth , if anything this ruling probably would of worked against him if it was in place then . Because he was flying in youth series and everyone was talking about him, and the teams had no choice now it’s the other way round, teams won’t take a chance they will just cherry pick, regardless, look at who’s been picked and it’s blatant who you know and who might do you a job rather than they might be okay with a run of rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Sargent10 said: Because he was flying in youth series and everyone was talking about him, and the teams had no choice now it’s the other way round, teams won’t take a chance they will just cherry pick, regardless, look at who’s been picked and it’s blatant who you know and who might do you a job rather than they might be okay with a run of rides Agree mate at the time he was going ok in the youth series but that was on a 250 not a 500 and for point of clarity he hadn't raced a 500 competitively till he rode at Berwick for Mildenhall. Also he rode as a guest at number 5 for Mildenhall in 2023 when they could have got a higher averaged rider because he was still on a 3 because he hadn't ridden at Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent10 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Agree mate at the time he was going ok in the youth series but that was on a 250 not a 500 and for point of clarity he hadn't raced a 500 competitively till he rode at Berwick for Mildenhall. Also he rode as a guest at number 5 for Mildenhall in 2023 when they could have got a higher averaged rider because he was still on a 3 because he hadn't ridden at Workington. That’s just splitting hairs, everyone knew what was happening, whoever binman is says it all it’s going to stop clubs from going down the route of using unattached riders unless they have absolutely no choice and when you think there’s only 10 fixtures reserve riders will jump at extra laps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Sargent10 said: That’s just splitting hairs, everyone knew what was happening, whoever binman is says it all it’s going to stop clubs from going down the route of using unattached riders unless they have absolutely no choice and when you think there’s only 10 fixtures reserve riders will jump at extra laps But that's the point mate previous rules gave them no choice and riders who were nowhere near the level required were getting rides . They have that choice so it's up to them who they pick . Edited February 3 by phillwhitewasmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 The rule has made it a closed shop as no unattached rider will get a guest booking as clubs will take the easy option of giving the spot to a guest reserve. With only 10 matches anyway , scattered over seven months , there is little opportunity for ANY youngster just starting out to impress as we have heard nothing about the other proposed events. Combine this with the rule in the youth championship of a specific cut off for a birthday thereby eliminating a few new youngsters because they are the oldest in their school year yet some of their classmates qualify it simply makes life even more difficult to get the chance to progress. Very disappointing decision by someone who is supposed to be all about development. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 17 hours ago, KK62 said: The rule has made it a closed shop as no unattached rider will get a guest booking as clubs will take the easy option of giving the spot to a guest reserve. With only 10 matches anyway , scattered over seven months , there is little opportunity for ANY youngster just starting out to impress as we have heard nothing about the other proposed events. Combine this with the rule in the youth championship of a specific cut off for a birthday thereby eliminating a few new youngsters because they are the oldest in their school year yet some of their classmates qualify it simply makes life even more difficult to get the chance to progress. Very disappointing decision by someone who is supposed to be all about development. Err, announcements have been made, http://www.leicesterspeedway.com/news.php?extend.32433 LEICESTER will switch to Sunday afternoon racing for their home fixtures in the National Development League this season. Fixtures for the third tier are currently in the process of being finalised, but the club can confirm the Lion Cubs have scheduled matches at the Pidcock Motorcycles Arena, Beaumont Park for Sundays at 3pm. The move has been made in order to provide maximum rider availability both for the Cubs and their opponents bearing in mind Championship commitments. Skipper Joe Thompson has a Championship team place with Plymouth, who will be racing at home predominantly on Saturday evenings, and Max James is racing for Edinburgh who have various Saturday away matches. Another key reason for the switch is that it opens up greater opportunities to make use of the new mini-track for second half events featuring 250cc and 125cc riders, which would otherwise be constrained by time on a Saturday evening. Leicester’s first home NDL fixture of the season is expected to take place at the Pidcock Motorcycles Arena, Beaumont Park on Sunday April 7 (3pm).The club will also be staging a round of the new National League Riders Development Series individual competition. This will take place on Sunday August 4 (3pm). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 6 hours ago, W9 Lion said: Err, announcements have been made, http://www.leicesterspeedway.com/news.php?extend.32433 LEICESTER will switch to Sunday afternoon racing for their home fixtures in the National Development League this season. Fixtures for the third tier are currently in the process of being finalised, but the club can confirm the Lion Cubs have scheduled matches at the Pidcock Motorcycles Arena, Beaumont Park for Sundays at 3pm. The move has been made in order to provide maximum rider availability both for the Cubs and their opponents bearing in mind Championship commitments. Skipper Joe Thompson has a Championship team place with Plymouth, who will be racing at home predominantly on Saturday evenings, and Max James is racing for Edinburgh who have various Saturday away matches. Another key reason for the switch is that it opens up greater opportunities to make use of the new mini-track for second half events featuring 250cc and 125cc riders, which would otherwise be constrained by time on a Saturday evening. Leicester’s first home NDL fixture of the season is expected to take place at the Pidcock Motorcycles Arena, Beaumont Park on Sunday April 7 (3pm).The club will also be staging a round of the new National League Riders Development Series individual competition. This will take place on Sunday August 4 (3pm). That’s on the Leicester site, which most people don’t read and that still doesn’t tell you any details…. Like who is in it ?, how many rounds ? Who qualifies to ride in it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: That’s on the Leicester site, which most people don’t read and that still doesn’t tell you any details…. Like who is in it ?, how many rounds ? Who qualifies to ride in it ? Details on british speedway website open to top 2 available riders from each club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 19 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: That’s on the Leicester site, which most people don’t read and that still doesn’t tell you any details…. Like who is in it ?, how many rounds ? Who qualifies to ride in it ? Your original post was that we had heard nothing which as they previous couple of posts have pointed out is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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