Beirao Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Glasgow didn't let Bewley go. He was a Belle Vue rider and decided to leave Glasgow. Connor is still a Glasgow 'asset' and is progressing nicely. Last year we chose not to use him and we won the Championship. Last year Tom was getting stick from some fans overhis home form, wrongly in my opinion, and rumour suggests he didn't really want to come back. When clubs are limited by a points limit every year, there will always be difficult decisions to make when building a team and hard decisions will have to be made. And if he continues to progress this year, as can be expected, it will be Redcar who will reap the benefit. Similarly Poole with Tom. Why don't these guys want to come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, j2ohh said: and thats Glasgow all over . they want everything NOW . not willing to watch young riders develop over time and lose out apart from the odd bit of silverware . but that is their choice . Not really, it's a numbers game and you can't have everyone back from a title winning team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, j2ohh said: and thats Glasgow all over . they want everything NOW . not willing to watch young riders develop over time and lose out apart from the odd bit of silverware . but that is their choice . You must've missed the 16 year old riding for the league champions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Nobody on the forum really knows what goes on behind the scenes regarding what riders really want to do.Personally I though Glasgow would have kept Tom but with averages and everything else you will never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Id like to have seen Tom at workington But obviously Saturday track will struggle for ambitious young riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, scaramanga said: Id like to have seen Tom at workington But obviously Saturday track will struggle for ambitious young riders He is still one of GB best prospects IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Beirao said: And if he continues to progress this year, as can be expected, it will be Redcar who will reap the benefit. Similarly Poole with Tom. Why don't these guys want to come back? It can be lots of reasons. They might want a challenge at a different track, they might not like the travel, somewhere else might fit in better with other commitments, they might want different people around them, a better deal, perhaps they can ride at a slightly different position somewhere else, maybe they just feel they need a change to unlock something that feels missing. Or maybe they just want to mess with people’s thoughts on internet forums! Probably not a high priority that, actually… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: Nobody on the forum really knows what goes on behind the scenes regarding what riders really want to do.Personally I though Glasgow would have kept Tom but with averages and everything else you will never know. Was largely absent when we really needed performances in big meetings, he had a few good rides just not many. After 2.5 years at GLA would frustratingly still run the inside when the racing line had long since moved up high. No surprises he wasn't re-signed. Vissing on the other hand, I hope Leon finds his Ashfield knack quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Beirao said: And if he continues to progress this year, as can be expected, it will be Redcar who will reap the benefit. Similarly Poole with Tom. Why don't these guys want to come back? In Toms case travelling was becoming an issue with his continental commitments. In this case it probably suited both parties, agree with you on Connor. Edited April 3 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 36 minutes ago, MD said: Was largely absent when we really needed performances in big meetings, he had a few good rides just not many. After 2.5 years at GLA would frustratingly still run the inside when the racing line had long since moved up high. No surprises he wasn't re-signed. Vissing on the other hand, I hope Leon finds his Ashfield knack quickly. Leon is an interesting signing.Good gater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Noelinho said: It can be lots of reasons. They might want a challenge at a different track, they might not like the travel, somewhere else might fit in better with other commitments, they might want different people around them, a better deal, perhaps they can ride at a slightly different position somewhere else, maybe they just feel they need a change to unlock something that feels missing. Or maybe they just want to mess with people’s thoughts on internet forums! Probably not a high priority that, actually… Maybe something else , who knows ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Gazc said: In Toms case travelling was becoming an issue with his continental commitments. In this case it probably suited both parties, agree with you on Connor. I often wonder if it would be the case that his continental meetings were becoming an issue with his Glasgow commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, MD said: I often wonder if it would be the case that his continental meetings were becoming an issue with his Glasgow commitments. He did have very heavy schedule,maybe affecting his performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: Leon is an interesting signing.Good gater. Hopefully, he's never shown an appetite for passing at Glasgow and we are clearly banking on him quickly getting comfortable and outperforming his starting average. Going to be interesting especially at Berwick this Sat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 6 hours ago, MD said: Was largely absent when we really needed performances in big meetings, he had a few good rides just not many. After 2.5 years at GLA would frustratingly still run the inside when the racing line had long since moved up high. No surprises he wasn't re-signed. Vissing on the other hand, I hope Leon finds his Ashfield knack quickly. Was it not a case of misunderstanding that he wasn’t resigned? Thought he had initially intimated he wasn’t doing the Championship this year and by the time he decided, Glasgow had made moves. Think he could come back and bite us on the bum when Poole visit. Edited April 3 by ragdoll64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 7 hours ago, MD said: Was largely absent when we really needed performances in big meetings, he had a few good rides just not many. After 2.5 years at GLA would frustratingly still run the inside when the racing line had long since moved up high. No surprises he wasn't re-signed. Vissing on the other hand, I hope Leon finds his Ashfield knack quickly. I was sad to see Vissing leave Glasgow, he's certainly a lot better around Ashfield than Flint has ever been. I wish Claus all the best at Workington and he's already scored 20+1 in two meetings in a bad team so I have no doubt that he's going to be a good signing for them. Edited April 3 by Nickinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 6 hours ago, j2ohh said: Maybe something else , who knows ? Perhaps other teams pay more than Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 8 hours ago, MD said: Was largely absent when we really needed performances in big meetings, he had a few good rides just not many. After 2.5 years at GLA would frustratingly still run the inside when the racing line had long since moved up high. No surprises he wasn't re-signed. Vissing on the other hand, I hope Leon finds his Ashfield knack quickly. Did Tom not get 9+2 and 9+1 in the grand final win last year? Would of thought that was a pretty good return and certainly not absent when it really mattered. I do think the biggest reason was probably the travelling which seemed to take its toll at times and the move to Poole will move him up a notch again. Edited April 3 by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 7 hours ago, gazzac said: Did Tom not get 9+2 and 9+1 in the grand final win last year? Would of thought that was a pretty good return and certainly not absent when it really mattered. I do think the biggest reason was probably the travelling which seemed to take its toll at times and the move to Poole will move him up a notch again. Yeah his form.picked up when he had no pressure riding at no.2 with bomber. Go back and look at the skelpings we took at Poole previously and Oxford and Redcar in the KO cup when riding at 5. Nothing against the lad was a good signing but assumption was he'd be similar progression as basso, and he just wasn't. As discussed the move away will no doubt do him good without the weekend rush to Poland every Friday night/ Saturday morning. Best of luck to him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 4 hours ago, Jaizer said: Yeah his form.picked up when he had no pressure riding at no.2 with bomber. Go back and look at the skelpings we took at Poole previously and Oxford and Redcar in the KO cup when riding at 5. Nothing against the lad was a good signing but assumption was he'd be similar progression as basso, and he just wasn't. As discussed the move away will no doubt do him good without the weekend rush to Poland every Friday night/ Saturday morning. Best of luck to him You're right, it was just an answer to not performing in the big meetings, and although the travelling had a massive downside during the season in other meetings, was just to point out that once the travelling to Poland ceased he probably showed his true level on the biggest 2 meetings of the season for Glasgow, even at No2. Think it pretty nailed on he'll improve at Poole, the really interesting one will be Birmingham, certainly started well there. Being a long term Eastie fan saw him as a tiny lad before the meetings at Arlington, suppose makes it more personal with his progress having seen him ride for about 18 years. Don't think he'll be a world beater, but sure he'll become a proper heat leader in the next couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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