Bagpuss Posted April 1 Author Report Share Posted April 1 13 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I can't agree with Berwick being that low. Think a lot of predictions placing Redcar high were before Jorgensen got injured. There was a great many people placing Edinburgh, Workington & Plymouth in the bottom 3, so if that's accurate, it's 6 clubs fighting for the remaining 3 play-offs spots. Poole being certainties for me. Personally I don't think Knudsen for Jorgensen changes an awful lot in terms of Redcar's chances. Berwick just don't convince me, too many riders who won't improve and could go missing, plus they always seem susceptible to home defeats. They are arguably the best of the rest but I'd be astonished if they get anywhere near the top four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Personally I don't think Knudsen for Jorgensen changes an awful lot in terms of Redcar's chances. Berwick just don't convince me, too many riders who won't improve and could go missing, plus they always seem susceptible to home defeats. They are arguably the best of the rest but I'd be astonished if they get anywhere near the top four. Can’t see them being susceptible to home defeats this season….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Personally I don't think Knudsen for Jorgensen changes an awful lot in terms of Redcar's chances. Berwick just don't convince me, too many riders who won't improve and could go missing, plus they always seem susceptible to home defeats. They are arguably the best of the rest but I'd be astonished if they get anywhere near the top four. 56 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: Can’t see them being susceptible to home defeats this season….. I agree with ragdoll, think Berwick will be very good at home this year. But that's the point of a forum, differing views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 1 Author Report Share Posted April 1 Indeed, time will tell. Their luck with injuries will be crucial too as they haven't had much of it in recent seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, ragdoll64 said: Can’t see them being susceptible to home defeats this season….. 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: I agree with ragdoll, think Berwick will be very good at home this year. But that's the point of a forum, differing views. Glasgow should win there tbh with Complin and Flint in their team! But Berwick will be lots better at home than previous seasons, so can't see too many doing it. Edit - oh and Harris!! lol Edited April 1 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 22 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Glasgow should win there tbh with Complin and Flint in their team! But Berwick will be lots better at home than previous seasons, so can't see too many doing it. Edit - oh and Harris!! lol Ace was also a bullet if going to go there. But I wouldn't be too confident in us winning anywhere this season. Brother Steve's early season form for Birmingham not been good either. I'd bite your hand off for 4th if was offered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 20 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Ace was also a bullet if going to go there. But I wouldn't be too confident in us winning anywhere this season. Brother Steve's early season form for Birmingham not been good either. I'd bite your hand off for 4th if was offered! Oh yes, Ace too! Well you are not having Tom back . I just wonder when riders have to change teams that is forced on them, they take a couple of months to settle. Didn't Masters say going to Oxford felt different to what he thought but halfway through last season onwards he felt comfortable in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 11 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Oh yes, Ace too! Well you are not having Tom back . I just wonder when riders have to change teams that is forced on them, they take a couple of months to settle. Didn't Masters say going to Oxford felt different to what he thought but halfway through last season onwards he felt comfortable in the team. And Starke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 18 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Personally I don't think Knudsen for Jorgensen changes an awful lot in terms of Redcar's chances. Berwick just don't convince me, too many riders who won't improve and could go missing, plus they always seem susceptible to home defeats. They are arguably the best of the rest but I'd be astonished if they get anywhere near the top four. Susceptible to home defeats can’t really be made an argument when we’ve only kept two riders from last season, one of them being Etheridge who is renowned for being at his best at Shielfield. Hume has scored well at Berwick for the past 3/4 years, and Borke’s now recorded his 2 biggest scores in the UK at Shielfield, along with Hodder who was nigh on unbeatable in the NL at Berwick, and extremely impressive against Workington. I’m not saying Berwick will go unbeaten at home, or even necessarily make the play offs, but they certainly shouldn’t be losing as many as previous seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Susceptible to home defeats can’t really be made an argument when we’ve only kept two riders from last season, one of them being Etheridge who is renowned for being at his best at Shielfield. Hume has scored well at Berwick for the past 3/4 years, and Borke’s now recorded his 2 biggest scores in the UK at Shielfield, along with Hodder who was nigh on unbeatable in the NL at Berwick, and extremely impressive against Workington. I’m not saying Berwick will go unbeaten at home, or even necessarily make the play offs, but they certainly shouldn’t be losing as many as previous seasons. When Stewart assembled the team I liked the look of it and they would really have to have an off night at home to lose. It is refreshing to see the Bandit fans having a team to be excited about and the team has strength in depth especially at reserve ,if a rider in the 1-5 is having an off night. Hope they have an off night this Saturday right enough. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Gazc said: When Stewart assembled the team I liked the look of it and they would really have to have an off night at home to lose. It is refreshing to see the Bandit fans having a team to be excited about and the team has strength in depth especially at reserve ,if a rider in the 1-5 is having an off night. Hope they have an off night this Saturday right enough. Glasgow are the Team most likely to defeat Berwick at Home this season. iMO.Should be a cracker this Sat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Glasgow are the Team most likely to defeat Berwick at Home this season. iMO.Should be a cracker this Sat. Agree with that, plenty Shielfield experience in the Glasgow team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 17 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Oh yes, Ace too! Well you are not having Tom back . I just wonder when riders have to change teams that is forced on them, they take a couple of months to settle. Didn't Masters say going to Oxford felt different to what he thought but halfway through last season onwards he felt comfortable in the team. Wish we could……….lol A few Pirates’ fans maybe changing their minds about not initially wanting Tom in the side? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, ragdoll64 said: Wish we could……….lol A few Pirates’ fans maybe changing their minds about not initially wanting Tom in the side? Think it was just based on previous performances (same happened when Lawson came) although more banking on the track now, which I'm sure him and Hagon appreciate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 I don’t think the change was exactly forced on Tom, my understanding is he didn’t clarify whether he wanted to come back or not, and it got to a point where Glasgow couldn’t wait any longer. Regardless, I think the change is a good move for him, and he’ll be under less pressure this year, which will be the biggest help. He certainly showed at Poole in the playoffs that he can ride the track, and he’ll be particularly good away from home. He was better away from Ashfield than at Ashfield last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 8 hours ago, ragdoll64 said: Wish we could……….lol A few Pirates’ fans maybe changing their minds about not initially wanting Tom in the side? It was time for Tom to move, his scoring around Ashfield last season was patchy a lot of the time. Don’t get me wrong he was a good fit for Glasgow when we managed to get him onboard when Eastbourne sadly folded . Very likeable young man who should go on and have a good career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 19 hours ago, ragdoll64 said: Wish we could……….lol A few Pirates’ fans maybe changing their minds about not initially wanting Tom in the side? Another young rider we've let go at the wrong time. Bewley and Bailey being two others that we didn't get any benefit from after their development years with us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Beirao said: Another young rider we've let go at the wrong time. Bewley and Bailey being two others that we didn't get any benefit from after their development years with us and thats Glasgow all over . they want everything NOW . not willing to watch young riders develop over time and lose out apart from the odd bit of silverware . but that is their choice . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 28 minutes ago, Beirao said: Another young rider we've let go at the wrong time. Bewley and Bailey being two others that we didn't get any benefit from after their development years with us Glasgow didn't let Bewley go. He was a Belle Vue rider and decided to leave Glasgow. Connor is still a Glasgow 'asset' and is progressing nicely. Last year we chose not to use him and we won the Championship. Last year Tom was getting stick from some fans overhis home form, wrongly in my opinion, and rumour suggests he didn't really want to come back. When clubs are limited by a points limit every year, there will always be difficult decisions to make when building a team and hard decisions will have to be made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Poole Scunthorpe Redcar Glasgow Berwick Oxford Workington Edinburgh Plymouth Poole look very strong but top four could be of a different order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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