szkocjasid Posted April 7 Author Report Share Posted April 7 Surprised Edinburgh didn't score more today. I rate Leicester as favourites, but Edinburgh's riders pre-season really talked up their game & had me believing in them. I'm sure Wood talked about being a number one & both Watson & Parker talked about becoming heat leaders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Surprised Edinburgh didn't score more today. I rate Leicester as favourites, but Edinburgh's riders pre-season really talked up their game & had me believing in them. I'm sure Wood talked about being a number one & both Watson & Parker talked about becoming heat leaders? Parker was a fair way behind today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 34 minutes ago, mc131 said: Parker was a fair way behind today. Development league that's what's its about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 8 Author Report Share Posted April 8 On 4/7/2024 at 7:58 PM, mc131 said: Parker was a fair way behind today. On 4/7/2024 at 8:33 PM, Binman said: Development league that's what's its about How is a rider being a fair way behind "development"? Unless last year he was continuously lapped & now he's only well behind. Now Sonny Springer scoring loads from reserve - that's development! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Parker wasn't ready last year and isn't ready this year. He just has connections in the club and is getting laps ahead of others who are more deserving. Its been happening for years and will continue in the future. Sometimes it clicks for a rider and often it doesn't..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Parker wasn't ready last year and isn't ready this year. He just has connections in the club and is getting laps ahead of others who are more deserving. Its been happening for years and will continue in the future. Sometimes it clicks for a rider and often it doesn't..... I can't see either reserve ' developing ' much, possibly reached their limits already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I mean... I've only seen Mark ride the once in a second half meeting at Redcar last season... But are we really going to write an 18 year old off already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said: I mean... I've only seen Mark ride the once in a second half meeting at Redcar last season... But are we really going to write an 18 year old off already? He's not just started riding, neither of them did anything worth talking about last season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 9 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Parker wasn't ready last year and isn't ready this year. He just has connections in the club and is getting laps ahead of others who are more deserving. Its been happening for years and will continue in the future. Sometimes it clicks for a rider and often it doesn't..... Parker only put his leg over a speedway bike a year ago. Going to say you probably haven’t seen much of him. Improved a fair bit over the last year. As already said it’s a development league and you’re writing someone off after a match against the best side in the league. They’ve got Luke crang at reserve along with one of the up and coming talents in springer so not entirely sure what you were expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, ONTWOMINUTES said: He's not just started riding, neither of them did anything worth talking about last season either. So who would you have to replace them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 12 hours ago, Binman said: So who would you have to replace them ? Very difficult to say because the system in this country doesn't help riders who are starting out it's to boost vatchers self ego as the savior even though he's never ridden and so not many riders are produced that are exceptional, the British national League is happy for most riders to just turn up to make up numbers to form a team and eventually give up and retire like a few have already this season. I'm not that in the know of any riders who could replace these two specifically but realistically the system fails apart from the odd dozen that make it to higher standards. Edited April 10 by ONTWOMINUTES 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: Parker only put his leg over a speedway bike a year ago. Going to say you probably haven’t seen much of him. Improved a fair bit over the last year. As already said it’s a development league and you’re writing someone off after a match against the best side in the league. They’ve got Luke crang at reserve along with one of the up and coming talents in springer so not entirely sure what you were expecting. I saw Parker in the flesh a couple of times last year and its safe to say he is technically challenged. Thats not to say he doesn't have potential but to put any rider straight into a league side after riding for a year is a huge gamble (yes Dan Bewley blah blah) but he was a generational exception rather than the norm. Im not saying Parker won't make it but i feel like he should have served more of an apprenticeship first 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 34 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: I saw Parker in the flesh a couple of times last year and its safe to say he is technically challenged. Thats not to say he doesn't have potential but to put any rider straight into a league side after riding for a year is a huge gamble (yes Dan Bewley blah blah) but he was a generational exception rather than the norm. Im not saying Parker won't make it but i feel like he should have served more of an apprenticeship first He’s also in the NJL side which will help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 17 hours ago, ONTWOMINUTES said: Very difficult to say because the system in this country doesn't help riders who are starting out it's to boost vatchers self ego as the savior even though he's never ridden and so not many riders are produced that are exceptional, the British national League is happy for most riders to just turn up to make up numbers to form a team and eventually give up and retire like a few have already this season. I'm not that in the know of any riders who could replace these two specifically but realistically the system fails apart from the odd dozen that make it to higher standards. You mean like chucking a rider out of a team opportunity because they 'haven't done anything worth talking about' in less than a year of riding... It's a development league and some riders take longer than others to develop... He's only 18. If he was in his late 20s I'd kinda get the argument... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: You mean like chucking a rider out of a team opportunity because they 'haven't done anything worth talking about' in less than a year of riding... It's a development league and some riders take longer than others to develop... He's only 18. If he was in his late 20s I'd kinda get the argument... The two Edinburgh riders are two of many in the ndl that will never be much good other than spending their or parents money chasing the dream, if they have fun that's all that matters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, ONTWOMINUTES said: The two Edinburgh riders are two of many in the ndl that will never be much good other than spending their or parents money chasing the dream, if they have fun that's all that matters. SpeedwaySlider72 is confused again, don't know why because its all there to see. That's if they actually attend any speedway or look at results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 22 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: He’s also in the NJL side which will help him. It will but surely thats the wrong way round? Once he is proficient in the NJL then he graduates to the NDL. Im not picking on Parker, thers plenty of riders who have been dropped into the league far too early, i can't even blame the riders for grabbing the opportunity its the promotions who go with the sink or swim mentality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: It will but surely thats the wrong way round? Once he is proficient in the NJL then he graduates to the NDL. Im not picking on Parker, thers plenty of riders who have been dropped into the league far too early, i can't even blame the riders for grabbing the opportunity its the promotions who go with the sink or swim mentality. Think the lowering of the points limit hasn’t helped the situation. As promotions are having to go with these less experienced guys to fit within the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Mr Blobby said: Think the lowering of the points limit hasn’t helped the situation. As promotions are having to go with these less experienced guys to fit within the limit. it will only get worse as the lower limit is going to falsely inflate averages so the leagues "better" riders won't be as good as they were 10 years ago and the competition at the bottom will become poorer for it. British Speedway needs strengthening from the bottom up not top down if its to have any chance of surviving. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/11/2024 at 1:23 PM, Sings4Speedway said: it will only get worse as the lower limit is going to falsely inflate averages so the leagues "better" riders won't be as good as they were 10 years ago and the competition at the bottom will become poorer for it. British Speedway needs strengthening from the bottom up not top down if its to have any chance of surviving. Exactly because at the moment the ndl is a complete waste of time . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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