Mr Blobby Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, Binman said: If your that good why sign riders from so far away Cause you can’t put 10 year olds in the NDL on a 125cc can you. Also no local riders riders available, obviously you’ve not got much of a clue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Edinburgh joining the NDL have been the absolute worst, how do they have so much influence? We won't run if we can't have Hook, our teams garbage but if you up the limit a little we can squeeze in a half decent rider. Perry has been available all winter they could have just opted against Watson or Wood. Might not be the ones driving them into the NDL coffin but they have been providing plenty of nails. That's a little bit dramatic. I don't have a problem with it personally. It's a sensible decision and it's hardly going to turn the competitive order of the NDL on its head. If Max didn't have an NDL ride, it would really undermine the point of the league. This is one of the better accommodations the authorities have made, for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Cause you can’t put 10 year olds in the NDL on a 125cc can you. Also no local riders riders available, obviously you’ve not got much of a clue. More of a clue than you think no local riders beg to differ just not the ones you don't want Edited January 28 by Binman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlicktrackSandy Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Noelinho said: That's a little bit dramatic. I don't have a problem with it personally. It's a sensible decision and it's hardly going to turn the competitive order of the NDL on its head. If Max didn't have an NDL ride, it would really undermine the point of the league. This is one of the better accommodations the authorities have made, for me. Would agree with that. It would be a real shame if a very young rider like Max was squeezed out of an NDL place for the sake of 0.05 points. Many believe that 36 point limit is too low anyway and the 36.25 or even 36.50 limit would allow more flexibility if required. Second decimal point rejection in a Development League such as this does seem a bit harsh when a young rider's future career prospects rely on at least 10 competitive matches at NDL level to gain valuable track time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 28 minutes ago, Binman said: More of a clue than you think no local riders beg to differ just not the ones you don't want Please tell me the local riders we didn’t want then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Noelinho said: That's a little bit dramatic. I don't have a problem with it personally. It's a sensible decision and it's hardly going to turn the competitive order of the NDL on its head. If Max didn't have an NDL ride, it would really undermine the point of the league. This is one of the better accommodations the authorities have made, for me. The whole league is being undermined by the inclusion of riders on low averages after shocking seasons, riders from across the globe who offer little to enhance british speedway. Yes Perry should have had a team place and anyone was free to signing him instead of thier current choices. Edinburgh stamped thier feet again and got thier own way. Doesn't bother me, im done with speedway. Nothing to interest me in the farcical NDL this season and higher leagues are just as comical. Was fun while it lasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 58 minutes ago, SlicktrackSandy said: Would agree with that. It would be a real shame if a very young rider like Max was squeezed out of an NDL place for the sake of 0.05 points. Many believe that 36 point limit is too low anyway and the 36.25 or even 36.50 limit would allow more flexibility if required. Second decimal point rejection in a Development League such as this does seem a bit harsh when a young rider's future career prospects rely on at least 10 competitive matches at NDL level to gain valuable track time. Not really bothered ,but why did no one sign him to start with and build accordingly.Seems strange to alter the rules now.Glad he got spot though ,he’s got more potential than a lot of others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: The whole league is being undermined by the inclusion of riders on low averages after shocking seasons, riders from across the globe who offer little to enhance british speedway. Yes Perry should have had a team place and anyone was free to signing him instead of thier current choices. Edinburgh stamped thier feet again and got thier own way. Doesn't bother me, im done with speedway. Nothing to interest me in the farcical NDL this season and higher leagues are just as comical. Was fun while it lasted. So why "bother" posting then? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Not really bothered ,but why did no one sign him to start with and build accordingly.Seems strange to alter the rules now.Glad he got spot though ,he’s got more potential than a lot of others. Perhaps teams, other than Poole, were concerned about his fitness, both physically and mentally, after his horrendous crash last season? Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: The whole league is being undermined by the inclusion of riders on low averages after shocking seasons, riders from across the globe who offer little to enhance british speedway. Yes Perry should have had a team place and anyone was free to signing him instead of thier current choices. Edinburgh stamped thier feet again and got thier own way. Doesn't bother me, im done with speedway. Nothing to interest me in the farcical NDL this season and higher leagues are just as comical. Was fun while it lasted. It does seem to bother you. Weird thing to push you over the edge though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I'm torn on this one, it's absolutely a common sense decision as we don't want riders like Perry missing out and its essentially a training/development league but as a look for speedway in general its not good. All in all though it's a better outcome than the lad not racing in the NL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I think the salient point is that the allowance was granted with the full agreement of every other team in the league. It's called democracy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, crescent girl said: I think the salient point is that the allowance was granted with the full agreement of every other team in the league. It's called democracy. I can see your point and pleased Perry has got a NL ride, so not anti it being done, but I'd have a bet during the season that when there's an injury or a possibility of a team change(s) caused by an injury etc and it comes in at 36.25 not 36 that the precedent set would make it difficult not to allow it even if it didn't have all teams in agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, gazzac said: I can see your point and pleased Perry has got a NL ride, so not anti it being done, but I'd have a bet during the season that when there's an injury or a possibility of a team change(s) caused by an injury etc and it comes in at 36.25 not 36 that the precedent set would make it difficult not to allow it even if it didn't have all teams in agreement. This isn’t a one-off adjustment, the seasonal points limit has been increased. NATIONAL Development League clubs have unanimously agreed to a slight increase to this season’s points limit. The mark had been set at 36 following the third tier’s AGM last November, but it has now been raised to 36.25. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 16 hours ago, NeilWatson said: This isn’t a one-off adjustment, the seasonal points limit has been increased. NATIONAL Development League clubs have unanimously agreed to a slight increase to this season’s points limit. The mark had been set at 36 following the third tier’s AGM last November, but it has now been raised to 36.25. Thanks, somehow missed that bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 22 hours ago, gazzac said: I can see your point and pleased Perry has got a NL ride, so not anti it being done, but I'd have a bet during the season that when there's an injury or a possibility of a team change(s) caused by an injury etc and it comes in at 36.25 not 36 that the precedent set would make it difficult not to allow it even if it didn't have all teams in agreement. You do have a point in that if a rider is injured and a replacement found but ave limit needs tweaking why not ? They did it for Edinburgh ! That’s what I’d say ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Had a brief look at the sparse NDL fixtures for 2024 and was disappointed to see there is a fixture scheduled for the 11th October! Obviously there are likely to be rain offs etc but just two fixtures currently in September and the rest knocked out by the end of August makes sense. I can understand why any side would want to delay hosting Edinburgh for a s long as possible but October feels extreme... On 1/28/2024 at 2:44 PM, Sings4Speedway said: The whole league is being undermined by the inclusion of riders on low averages after shocking seasons, riders from across the globe who offer little to enhance british speedway. Yes Perry should have had a team place and anyone was free to signing him instead of thier current choices. Edinburgh stamped thier feet again and got thier own way. Doesn't bother me, im done with speedway. Nothing to interest me in the farcical NDL this season and higher leagues are just as comical. Was fun while it lasted. Pity you didn't keep your promise, instead of further spouting your inane, usubstantiated drivel towards Edinburgh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 A bit late but a few thoughts about the decision to raise the limit to allow Edinburgh to fit in Max Perry. 1) i'm absolutely delighted Max has got a NL team & think it would have been a travesty for a 16 year old improving rider in his first Champ season to miss iut on a place in the development league. 2) I'm very impressed that the fellow promoters agreed to a rule change that directly hurts their own chances at glory. 3) I think its rediculous to change a rule after the AGM. Mainly because its shows a complete lack of thought & planning. Did they not consider whcih riders could miss out, perhaps it's just easier & "lazy" to just pick a low points limit, create a weak league & hope it works for developing riders. For example a developing 16 year old on a 7+ average almost misses out, but "journeymen" riders who will never make it on lower averages, will have no such issues gaining a team place. Now I have zero issues with these older / more experienced / doing it for a hobby type riders racing in the NL, just feel these rider sgaining a spot over the likes of Perry goes against the supposed point of the lower points limit (development). They coulkd have picked rider gradings based on ability & experience, a % reduction based on experience to help "developing" riders, rather than the quick an easy option of "let's lower the points limit" . 4) Edinburgh could have fitted in Perry by not signing Wood or Watson for example. So in the future, whats to stop a team picking a rider just over the points limit and asking for the limit to be increased? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 They should have been told to not select a middle age rider from the other side of the world ( again ) who couldn't average 5 points last season and give the place to a ‘developing’ Brit , isn't that the point of this league ??? but this is how British speedway is now being run. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 They’ve all agreed the league should focus on development so why have a team limit at all ! Surely they can all be trusted ‘to do the right thing’ ?? Or maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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