PotteringAround Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 37 minutes ago, SlicktrackSandy said: Whatever happened to Jack Kingston ( 6.45 ) no mention of him this year. Don't think a predominantly Northern NDL suits someone based so far down in the South East. Can't imagine he'd want the 800 mile, 14-hour, round trip to Edinburgh for home meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlicktrackSandy Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Don't think a predominantly Northern NDL suits someone based so far down in the South East. Can't imagine he'd want the 800 mile, 14-hour, round trip to Edinburgh for home meetings. 18 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Don't think a predominantly Northern NDL suits someone based so far down in the South East. Can't imagine he'd want the 800 mile, 14-hour, round trip to Edinburgh for home meetings. Fair point but that would be only 5 times - the other 5 would be a fair bit easier at at a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 22 minutes ago, SlicktrackSandy said: Fair point but that would be only 5 times - the other 5 would be a fair bit easier at at a guess. Edinburgh, Redcar, Scunfield, and Belle Vue are all long treks from Essex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Mason Watson announced - - very good signing, will improve his average this year. Good young lad, too...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Who we thinking for the last spot then? Lee Complin 7.46 Tom Woolley 6.64 Ryan Kinsley 7.67 if he fancies a bit of travelling Greg Blair 6.33 Anyone else? 1. Connor Coles 2. Mason Watson 3. Sam McGurk 4. Dayle Wood 5. Lee Complin 6. Kyran Lyden 7. Mark Parker Not a terrible looking team, but the press release did say that Dayle Wood would need to ride like a heatleader... So perhaps the last rider will put them well under the limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Who we thinking for the last spot then? Lee Complin 7.46 Tom Woolley 6.64 Ryan Kinsley 7.67 if he fancies a bit of travelling Greg Blair 6.33 Anyone else? 1. Connor Coles 2. Mason Watson 3. Sam McGurk 4. Dayle Wood 5. Lee Complin 6. Kyran Lyden 7. Mark Parker Not a terrible looking team, but the press release did say that Dayle Wood would need to ride like a heatleader... So perhaps the last rider will put them well under the limit? Lee Complin achieved an average over 4.00 in PL/Championship, a few years ago mind, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlicktrackSandy Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 49 minutes ago, StevePark said: Lee Complin achieved an average over 4.00 in PL/Championship, a few years ago mind, but still. Another factor to take into consideration is that Lee Complin rides for Glasgow most Friday nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 14 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Who we thinking for the last spot then? Lee Complin 7.46 Tom Woolley 6.64 Ryan Kinsley 7.67 if he fancies a bit of travelling Greg Blair 6.33 Anyone else? 1. Connor Coles 2. Mason Watson 3. Sam McGurk 4. Dayle Wood 5. Lee Complin 6. Kyran Lyden 7. Mark Parker Not a terrible looking team, but the press release did say that Dayle Wood would need to ride like a heatleader... So perhaps the last rider will put them well under the limit? I’ll go with rider number 2 on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 57 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: I’ll go with rider number 2 on the list. Yes. Although I know nothing about the inner runnings of Edinburgh, I just get the feeling it'll be Tom. Even though perhaps he's not the best option. At least he's ridden for the NDL team in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 20 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Yes. Although I know nothing about the inner runnings of Edinburgh, I just get the feeling it'll be Tom. Even though perhaps he's not the best option. At least he's ridden for the NDL team in the past Also think its likely to be Tom but have to disagree i think its a terrible looking team. I know every side is weakened but i struggle to see many home wins and certainly non on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 31 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Also think its likely to be Tom but have to disagree i think its a terrible looking team. I know every side is weakened but i struggle to see many home wins and certainly non on the road. Isn’t it all about the taking part this year ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 11 hours ago, TMW said: Isn’t it all about the taking part this year ?? Certainly appears so, medals for everyone who turns up.....spectators that is as whats on show will be of little reward. Few years ago the NL was a viable competitor to the CL, now that has been diluted the NDL has to follow suit, to the point that its almost an unviable product. Can't imagine any club will get gates of more than a couple of hundred this season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly appears so, medals for everyone who turns up.....spectators that is as whats on show will be of little reward. Few years ago the NL was a viable competitor to the CL, now that has been diluted the NDL has to follow suit, to the point that its almost an unviable product. Can't imagine any club will get gates of more than a couple of hundred this season. Which, I guess, is why there are no "stand alone" clubs in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 14 hours ago, TMW said: Isn’t it all about the taking part this year ?? 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly appears so, medals for everyone who turns up.....spectators that is as whats on show will be of little reward. Few years ago the NL was a viable competitor to the CL, now that has been diluted the NDL has to follow suit, to the point that its almost an unviable product. Can't imagine any club will get gates of more than a couple of hundred this season. I'm certainly not very excited about the NL this year. When I look at the teams I don't see a lot of riders & think to myself, wow that's a team with lots of potential, I more think, there's a bunch of riders who aren't good enough / haven't improved enough / will never make it into the Champ. Having riders racing for a hobby, or Career NL second strings / reserves actually never bothered me in previous years, really when they kinda screamed it's a DEVELOPMENT league to us this year, I see all the flaws of their plan. To me it just looks a very weak league. Obviously Max Perry not getting a team spot greatly annoys me, a 16 year old in his first Champ season is exactly the sort of rider the NL should be designed for imo. After two seasons in the NL, it's sink or swim for him in the Champ. I mostly blame Leicester for this, signing Joe T over Perry goes against the new "ethos" of the league imo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I'm certainly not very excited about the NL this year. When I look at the teams I don't see a lot of riders & think to myself, wow that's a team with lots of potential, I more think, there's a bunch of riders who aren't good enough / haven't improved enough / will never make it into the Champ. Having riders racing for a hobby, or Career NL second strings / reserves actually never bothered me in previous years, really when they kinda screamed it's a DEVELOPMENT league to us this year, I see all the flaws of their plan. To me it just looks a very weak league. Obviously Max Perry not getting a team spot greatly annoys me, a 16 year old in his first Champ season is exactly the sort of rider the NL should be designed for imo. After two seasons in the NL, it's sink or swim for him in the Champ. I mostly blame Leicester for this, signing Joe T over Perry goes against the new "ethos" of the league imo. Two points is there anything wrong with riders that aren't going to make the big time just riding in a league for fun and did Perry want a NDL place 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, Binman said: Two points is there anything wrong with riders that aren't going to make the big time just riding in a league for fun and did Perry want a NDL place Absolutely not, but the new rules mean riders like Luke Crang or Tom Woolley can ride forever in the development league for fun, but riders like Max Clegg & Ben Morley can't. I actually think the Morley's & Clegg's are needed more, to let the top developing riders know they are ready to step up into the Champ. If you can beat them, you're ready to move up. Edited January 21 by szkocjasid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly appears so, medals for everyone who turns up.....spectators that is as whats on show will be of little reward. Few years ago the NL was a viable competitor to the CL, now that has been diluted the NDL has to follow suit, to the point that its almost an unviable product. Can't imagine any club will get gates of more than a couple of hundred this season. and if a sensible pay structure was used for a ‘development’ league then a few hundred would be just fine, but don’t expect the likes of Clegg, Morley etc to want to ride for expenses only style wages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, KK62 said: and if a sensible pay structure was used for a ‘development’ league then a few hundred would be just fine, but don’t expect the likes of Clegg, Morley etc to want to ride for expenses only style wages. There is a sensible pay structure this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly appears so, medals for everyone who turns up.....spectators that is as whats on show will be of little reward. Few years ago the NL was a viable competitor to the CL, now that has been diluted the NDL has to follow suit, to the point that its almost an unviable product. Can't imagine any club will get gates of more than a couple of hundred this season. Couple of Dozen in some cases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, KK62 said: and if a sensible pay structure was used for a ‘development’ league then a few hundred would be just fine, but don’t expect the likes of Clegg, Morley etc to want to ride for expenses only style wages. How come you don't talk this much sense in the flesh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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