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[szkocjasid]

43 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

Was Archie who Newcastle ridiculously put into there CL team a couple of seasons back when he was nowhere near ready? 

That was the downside of the "rising star" system. Newcastle dropped promising young Brit Connor Mountain because he wasn't a "RS" replaced him with Joe Alcock who was nowhere near ready, then replaced him with Archie Freeman who was even further away from being ready.

Obviously he got "free practice" but did going in the Champ far too early, hinder his progress?

Ideally you want riders to be NL heat leaders before stepping up.

[phillipsr]

1 minute ago, szkocjasid said:

That was the downside of the "rising star" system. Newcastle dropped promising young Brit Connor Mountain because he wasn't a "RS" replaced him with Joe Alcock who was nowhere near ready, then replaced him with Archie Freeman who was even further away from being ready.

Obviously he got "free practice" but did going in the Champ far too early, hinder his progress?

Ideally you want riders to be NL heat leaders before stepping up.

I said at the time it could destroy his confidence and was a terrible decision by Newcastle to put a young riders career in doubt… not certain it has affected his decision to now walk away but certainly wouldn't of helped im sure 

[szkocjasid]

18 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

I said at the time it could destroy his confidence and was a terrible decision by Newcastle to put a young riders career in doubt… not certain it has affected his decision to now walk away but certainly wouldn't of helped I'm sure 

Agree with all you've said

[StevePark]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

That was the downside of the "rising star" system. Newcastle dropped promising young Brit Connor Mountain because he wasn't a "RS" replaced him with Joe Alcock who was nowhere near ready, then replaced him with Archie Freeman who was even further away from being ready.

Obviously he got "free practice" but did going in the Champ far too early, hinder his progress?

Ideally you want riders to be NL heat leaders before stepping up.

When did Newcastle "drop" Connor Mountain? He rode throughout the whole of the 2021 season and was given a starting place at his own club the following year, which ruled him out of the Diamonds team.  Joe Alcock rode in the first 3 matches and was replaced by Jack Parkinson-Blackburn, who lasted 4 matches and he was then replaced by Archie.

Edited April 7, 2024 by StevePark

[phillipsr]

1 hour ago, StevePark said:

When did Newcastle "drop" Connor Mountain? He rode throughout the whole of the 2021 season and was given a starting place at his own club the following year, which ruled him out of the Diamonds team.  Joe Alcock rode in the first 3 matches and was replaced by Jack Parkinson-Blackburn, who lasted 4 matches and he was then replaced by Archie.

Whatever the reasoning it was an awful decision and potentially destroyed a career   

[1Tsunami]

17 hours ago, phillipsr said:

Whatever the reasoning it was an awful decision and potentially destroyed a career   

Quite agree. Archie refused to ride at reserve knowing his gating was crap at that time, and would not score points. He was presurised by Rob to ride but it didn't help his confidence. He was guaranteed  points payment but it did more harm than good for his progress. The following year he was signed by the Belle Vue Colts at reserve along with Freddie Holder, and he then made good progress usually being the highest average. Great pairing Archie and Freddie.   

Edited April 8, 2024 by 1Tsunami

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, StevePark said:

When did Newcastle "drop" Connor Mountain? He rode throughout the whole of the 2021 season and was given a starting place at his own club the following year, which ruled him out of the Diamonds team.  Joe Alcock rode in the first 3 matches and was replaced by Jack Parkinson-Blackburn, who lasted 4 matches and he was then replaced by Archie.

Newcastle dropped Connor Mountain because they needed a "rising star" then for whatever reason, Claus Vissing left the club & Mountain came back in.

I was pointing out a flaw in the RS system, that a developing Brit was dropped because of a system designed to help developing Brits.

[Fortythirtyeight]

On 4/8/2024 at 12:04 AM, szkocjasid said:

Newcastle dropped Connor Mountain because they needed a "rising star" then for whatever reason, Claus Vissing left the club & Mountain came back in.

I was pointing out a flaw in the RS system, that a developing Brit was dropped because of a system designed to help developing Brits.

Any chance of you renaming this thread MIDDLESBROUGH ?

[Redtruck]

Kai ward 7th signing 

[szkocjasid]

On 4/9/2024 at 2:45 PM, Fortythirtyeight said:

Any chance of you renaming this thread MIDDLESBROUGH ?

I'd change it if I knew how

[StevePark]

12 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I'd change it if I knew how

Hovver over the title - click on it- Edit title.

Edited May 4, 2024 by StevePark

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On 5/4/2024 at 1:57 PM, StevePark said:

Hovver over the title - click on it- Edit title.

How's the weather looking for tonight 

[boz]

Suns out but windy!

Been dry all day so far where I am, about 5 miles from track.

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Should be a close meeting, both teams with a few experienced riders at this level and a few riders that aren't. Middlesbrough could just win, depends on if schimelt can actually contribute some points, reserves look evenly inexperienced.