Diamonds85 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Why who was you hoping for I've not got a problem with WHO was announced. Give the young, returning lad a chance. I'm just surprised it took them months to announce the final rider when he was one of the more obvious choices... its not like they'd have to negotiate a difficult deal... This league is all about development and I don't see it as any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 27 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: I've not got a problem with WHO was announced. Give the young, returning lad a chance. I'm just surprised it took them months to announce the final rider when he was one of the more obvious choices... its not like they'd have to negotiate a difficult deal... This league is all about development and I don't see it as any other. With all due respect they shouldn’t be ‘negotiating’ any deals ! Promoter. ….this is what’s on offer Rider … great ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, TMW said: With all due respect they shouldn’t be ‘negotiating’ any deals ! Promoter. ….this is what’s on offer Rider … great ! Which is Rob's philosophy all along ....... take it or leave it which applies to any rider for the club, even guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, TMW said: With all due respect they shouldn’t be ‘negotiating’ any deals ! Promoter. ….this is what’s on offer Rider … great ! Depends on how much said promoter takes the piss... everyone has a value and it should be acknowledged. And if the promoter is going to hand out below value offers he's just going to get rejection after rejection... not saying this is robs philosophy as I have no idea what goes on in the background but... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Jack Smith replaces Nathan Ablitt at No.1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 25 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Jack Smith replaces Nathan Ablitt at No.1 Ablitt back in when fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 48 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Jack Smith replaces Nathan Ablitt at No.1 Suppose Smith is still developing in his eyes.Has he ever had a real job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) At Least Smith will be number 1 its a lot better than some teams who are trying to develop a 32 year old at reserve Edited April 16 by Fozzie4388 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Jack Smith replaces Nathan Ablitt at No.1 Is this correct or speculation?. Just asking as I can not see anything on Sheffield or Scunthorpe website or Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, RS50 said: Is this correct or speculation?. Just asking as I can not see anything on Sheffield or Scunthorpe website or Facebook. He is on the Official team list on the british speedway site. ( Glasgow asset) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, Fozzie4388 said: At Least Smith will be number 1 its a lot better than some teams who are trying to develop a 32 year old at reserve It’s not his fault,but why don’t they make it an U21 NDL it would a bit more credible status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 28 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s not his fault,but why don’t they make it an U21 NDL it would a bit more credible status. But, if they did that, then that would rule out anyone switching from grasstrack or moto X who are over 21 but just starting out on the shale. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 9 hours ago, StevePark said: But, if they did that, then that would rule out anyone switching from grasstrack or moto X who are over 21 but just starting out on the shale. That's what these amateur meetings and practice days are for, any real talent could adapt to the situation. There's not enough in place to prevent the ndl going further into decline with juniors coming up through the years and missing out on a team place due to teams made up of poor riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 13 minutes ago, ONTWOMINUTES said: That's what these amateur meetings and practice days are for, any real talent could adapt to the situation. There's not enough in place to prevent the ndl going further into decline with juniors coming up through the years and missing out on a team place due to teams made up of poor riders. But surely if a rider coming through the junior ranks isn't good enough to displace a poor established rider.....With the low numbers competing an U21 league would virtually guarantee anyone with a bike a team spot and thats no good for making the standard better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 24 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: But surely if a rider coming through the junior ranks isn't good enough to displace a poor established rider.....With the low numbers competing an U21 league would virtually guarantee anyone with a bike a team spot and thats no good for making the standard better. But this is the whole problem, the standard of the ndl isn't going to get any better, speedway in this country needs to be rethought out because at the moment it's the same year in year out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 39 minutes ago, ONTWOMINUTES said: But this is the whole problem, the standard of the ndl isn't going to get any better, speedway in this country needs to be rethought out because at the moment it's the same year in year out. No going to disagree with you there. Unfortunately those who run the sport and ultimately run teams in higher leagues cannot see that a higher level in the NDL will generate a higher level across the sport. Instead the NDL was viewed as a competitive viable product and therefore a threat to higher divisions and was dumbed down rather than focussing on developing the product higher up. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 11 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: No going to disagree with you there. Unfortunately those who run the sport and ultimately run teams in higher leagues cannot see that a higher level in the NDL will generate a higher level across the sport. Instead the NDL was viewed as a competitive viable product and therefore a threat to higher divisions and was dumbed down rather than focussing on developing the product higher up. Your spot on with this analogy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rearingtogo Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 On 11/30/2023 at 8:52 PM, chunky said: No it's not! It's the greatest ever! All we need is a suitable nickname... Like the "Sheffc****s"... There’s a big opening there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 I'm sure pre-season Lambert suggested, riders would get all their rides, for development etc. but it's looking like Pijper will get 6 rides vs Dicken getting 4. Would have been very easy for Lambert to give them 5 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Also, as it's a "development" league, why not use both reserves in traditionally weaker heat 8, rather than giving Championship rider Harrison the easier race? Remember it's not about winning, it's about development right? So would Harrison not learn more in a tougher race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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