phillwhitewasmad Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: With respect if likely to be two meetings at Owlerton so hardly needing a track specialist. But im sure if someone provided bikes, kit, spares, a van and throw in a few quid JPB would show up and do a half arsed job. Perhaps Ben Hopwood, Scott Campos or Lewis Bridger could be tempted back too. No thanks to any of them don't see how they would add anything to the dynamic of a young team Edited January 11 by phillwhitewasmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulbooth Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I vote for Owen but I am biased 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, 4BM said: What would Parkinson-Blackburn come in on? Know he’s burnt a few bridges in the past but one of few riders at this level who will have had plenty laps around Owlerton where half the home meetings will be Average too high (6.64) Scunfield have 4.61 left, but it sounds like it'll be another 3.00 rider from the press release announcing Dicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 On 12/6/2023 at 12:05 AM, Sir Sidney said: This is the case Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine Look at the duty of care issues. In simple terms, The MSA was held to have a duty of care to Mr Wattleworth, even though the event at which he lost his life was not an MSA event. Indeed MSA were found to have a duty of care for any motor activity on the circuit. Therefore, using that logic, the SCB concludes it has a duty of care for any NORA events on an SCB licenced track and could be exposed to a legal liability - however, they chose only to take issue with Iwade staging a NORA league meeting, not any other NORA events (including one shortly after where an SCB board member took part). If you accept the SCB interpretation of the case then any motorcycling event on an SCB licenced track creates a potential liability for them - and so whether that is motorcross, Dirt Track Events meetings, Flat Track meetings, track days, practice sessions, private hire etc not held under SCB then it should have applied the same sanctions to the promoters of those tracks as it applied to Kent. As it happens, I believe the SCB interpretation is incorrect, but if I was an affected party then I would get a legal opinion. As a postscript then it is worth noting a quote from Si Kellow in Speedway Star where he is quoted as saying ' Secondly, after being used as a tool to get at a club which isn't part of the SCB and BSPL anymore, I can't condone being part of a group which uses those practices'. (page 7 Speedway Star December 2 ) The SCB have already conceded they can’t actually stop Nora Events or SCB riders on SCB tracks what they can do is withdraw an SCB licence which is what they threatened to do to Kent. As they suspended the penalty ! To stop them holding any more !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, TMW said: The SCB have already conceded they can’t actually stop Nora Events or SCB riders on SCB tracks what they can do is withdraw an SCB licence which is what they threatened to do to Kent. As they suspended the penalty ! To stop them holding any more !! It's a bit more nuanced than that. It wasn't Kent that ran the NORA meeting, but Iwade ( who continued to run NORA meetings including one in which an SCB board member took part!) If the SCB were evenhanded they would also have threatened Kings Lynn ( who allow Dirst Track Events to run NORA Events on the track) and Scunthorpe ( who allow flat track Events not under SCB licence on the track). Using the case law they are relying on then SCB would be as liable to have a duty of care for those Events. But it is clear that the SCB was selective in the action they took. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 On 1/16/2024 at 1:40 AM, Sir Sidney said: It's a bit more nuanced than that. It wasn't Kent that ran the NORA meeting, but Iwade ( who continued to run NORA meetings including one in which an SCB board member took part!) If the SCB were evenhanded they would also have threatened Kings Lynn ( who allow Dirst Track Events to run NORA Events on the track) and Scunthorpe ( who allow flat track Events not under SCB licence on the track). Using the case law they are relying on then SCB would be as liable to have a duty of care for those Events. But it is clear that the SCB was selective in the action they took. Agree. Because they can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, TMW said: Agree. Because they can Not sure that would stand up in law, but that's up to any aggrieved party to test. SCBs stand is clearly aimed at 2 individuals, as Si Kellow said in Speedway Star. Whether that is acceptable is up to individual's own views. Personally I'd like to see an agreed way forward, where all parties benefit - especially young riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Why have we gone off thread and revived this debate on this section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Why have we gone off thread and revived this debate on this section Good question. Slightly more relevant, any ideas who the last signing will be, and when do we get the fixtures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, RS50 said: Good question. Slightly more relevant, any ideas who the last signing will be, and when do we get the fixtures list. no sorry no information on either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2024 at 1:40 AM, Sir Sidney said: It's a bit more nuanced than that. It wasn't Kent that ran the NORA meeting, but Iwade ( who continued to run NORA meetings including one in which an SCB board member took part!) If the SCB were evenhanded they would also have threatened Kings Lynn ( who allow Dirst Track Events to run NORA Events on the track) and Scunthorpe ( who allow flat track Events not under SCB licence on the track). Using the case law they are relying on then SCB would be as liable to have a duty of care for those Events. But it is clear that the SCB was selective in the action they took. What happens if a rider (or riders) who are suspended by SCB turn up and ride in a NORA event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 40 minutes ago, crescent girl said: What happens if a rider (or riders) who are suspended by SCB turn up and ride in a NORA event? come on Mr B please post in the relevant section not the scunthorpe sheffield thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, crescent girl said: What happens if a rider (or riders) who are suspended by SCB turn up and ride in a NORA event? Depends what you mean by suspended. I suppose but I imagine no different to turning up to Grass Track Long Track Motor cross etc . It would be interesting to see what Buster Chapman or Rob Godfrey would do under a NORA meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: come on Mr B please post in the relevant section not the scunthorpe sheffield thread Which is the relevant section ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, TMW said: Which is the relevant section ! No idea but can't see its relevance to the thread about a National league team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Sam Ward on Facebook talking about returning to speedway and mentions news that he can't share yet... he's always in the amateur scene at scunthorpe and ould be another 3.00er like mentioned previously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Scunfield now complete with the signing of Sheldon Davies on a 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Well that was an underwhelming wait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 20 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Well that was an underwhelming wait Why who was you hoping for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Why who was you hoping for I don't think that some people have grasped that it is supposed to be a "Development" League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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