Nickinho Posted January 13, 2024 Report Share Posted January 13, 2024 On 1/9/2024 at 6:10 PM, phillipsr said: Liebman beats West easily Expand Lay off the weed Phillip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted January 15, 2024 Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/9/2024 at 6:10 PM, phillipsr said: Liebman beats West easily Expand Michael West's under 24 Ekstraliga average last year was nearly triple Celina's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 15, 2024 Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/9/2024 at 6:10 PM, phillipsr said: Liebman beats West easily Expand l'm truly impressed by Workington's signing Ms Liebmann, it'll be huge publicity, bums-on-seats and all the hoopla. Great for the Comets and the sport all over. But l'm afraid Dayle Wood, let alone Mickey West, has the beating of the lovely Celina..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 15, 2024 Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 6:09 PM, crescent girl said: l'm truly impressed by Workington's signing Ms Liebmann, it'll be huge publicity, bums-on-seats and all the hoopla. Great for the Comets and the sport all over. But l'm afraid Dayle Wood, let alone Mickey West, has the beating of the lovely Celina..... Expand Mickey West beat James Pearson in Aussie at the week-end.What matters is on the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 15, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 6:09 PM, crescent girl said: l'm truly impressed by Workington's signing Ms Liebmann, it'll be huge publicity, bums-on-seats and all the hoopla. Great for the Comets and the sport all over. But l'm afraid Dayle Wood, let alone Mickey West, has the beating of the lovely Celina..... Expand Will it really make that much of a difference on the numbers coming through the gate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 15, 2024 Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 7:04 PM, bloom89 said: Will it really make that much of a difference on the numbers coming through the gate? Expand Maybe not dramatic but yes definitely id say… my daughter is desperate to go watch her Theres also those that will go to watch hoping to see her fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 15, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 7:14 PM, Supersteady84 said: Probably the most ridiculous comment I've seen on here EVER!! Expand Not really, I’m sure her signing will have hundreds and thousand of old fans flocking back to every track to drag this sport out of the mess it finds itself in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 15, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 9:18 PM, phillipsr said: Maybe not dramatic but yes definitely id say… my daughter is desperate to go watch her Theres also those that will go to watch hoping to see her fail Expand I’m sure once the novelty has worn off the crowds will too, personally can’t see hundreds and hundreds of fans going just to see her. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted January 16, 2024 Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 (edited) On 1/15/2024 at 7:04 PM, bloom89 said: Will it really make that much of a difference on the numbers coming through the gate? Expand Not really. I can't see any non-speedway fans wanting to pay £25 or whatever it is to see a reserve rider just because she's female. If any do then it'll be solely for the novelty value and we all know every novelty quickly wears off. Edited January 16, 2024 by Nickinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 16, 2024 Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 On 1/15/2024 at 10:42 PM, bloom89 said: I’m sure once the novelty has worn off the crowds will too, personally can’t see hundreds and hundreds of fans going just to see her. Expand I never said hundreds and hundreds but their will be some… id certainly rather watch her than some of the others mentioned on here if they had been named instead:. likes of Cook and Batch i wouldnt open my curtains if they were riding in my back garden but Liebman (and Tate and The Finn) will get me along to watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 On 1/16/2024 at 7:34 AM, phillipsr said: I never said hundreds and hundreds but their will be some… id certainly rather watch her than some of the others mentioned on here if they had been named instead:. likes of Cook and Batch i wouldnt open my curtains if they were riding in my back garden but Liebman (and Tate and The Finn) will get me along to watch Expand But if there’s a handful for example then it will make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Clubs are closing every time you blink and because one team signs a woman rider that’s not going to change things, really the only people who this appeals to will be mainly people who follow speedway anyway imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 On 1/16/2024 at 12:55 AM, Nickinho said: Not really. I can't see any non-speedway fans wanting to pay £25 or whatever it is to see a reserve rider just because she's female. If any do then it'll be solely for the novelty value and we all know every novelty quickly wears off. Expand Yes exactly this, the world we live in prices continue to rise and I’m sure most clubs will be hiking there prices up again this coming season. Lowering the product but increasing the price same old British speedway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted January 16, 2024 Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 On 1/16/2024 at 12:55 AM, Nickinho said: Not really. I can't see any non-speedway fans wanting to pay £25 or whatever it is to see a reserve rider just because she's female. If any do then it'll be solely for the novelty value and we all know every novelty quickly wears off. Expand £25 must be the Glasgow admission price !! Worky and others are £20 granted it should be less for a diluted product but yhrm in charge can't see this !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 16, 2024 Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 (edited) Notwithstanding the lower points limit, clubs still have the same stadium and meeting costs, most of which have increased in price, so its understandable that admission prices will increase! Fans will make their own decisions about 'what represents a quality product'! If its felt that the increase is too much then that will be reflected in attendance levels - a factor that I'm sure most Promoters take into account when preparing their revenue/expenditure budgets for each season. Edited January 16, 2024 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 16, 2024 Report Share Posted January 16, 2024 On 1/16/2024 at 9:47 AM, bloom89 said: But if there’s a handful for example then it will make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Clubs are closing every time you blink and because one team signs a woman rider that’s not going to change things, really the only people who this appeals to will be mainly people who follow speedway anyway imo. Expand Yeah maybe but i also dont see the harm in it:.. surely any extra fans is a good thing its hardly like clubs can be picky!! Im not saying this is some great messiah to get crowds flooding back but any extra is a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 17, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 I know various people have said certain riders like Gilkes, Rowe and Jack Thomas have been offered deals and turned them down but it’s mightily disappointing when these riders don’t have spots in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted January 17, 2024 Report Share Posted January 17, 2024 On 1/17/2024 at 8:09 PM, bloom89 said: I know various people have said certain riders like Gilkes, Rowe and Jack Thomas have been offered deals and turned them down but it’s mightily disappointing when these riders don’t have spots in the league. Expand Yea but dome riders have a high opinion of themselves and want more money than offered, then feel hard done by not having a team place !! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 18, 2024 Report Share Posted January 18, 2024 On 1/17/2024 at 11:30 PM, Neila said: Yea but dome riders have a high opinion of themselves and want more money than offered, then feel hard done by not having a team place !! Expand Nail hit firmly on the head,couldn't agree more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 18, 2024 Report Share Posted January 18, 2024 On 1/17/2024 at 8:09 PM, bloom89 said: I know various people have said certain riders like Gilkes, Rowe and Jack Thomas have been offered deals and turned them down but it’s mightily disappointing when these riders don’t have spots in the league. Expand So, what do you want clubs to do? Go over budget by offering these certain riders "over the odds" money and potentially put the club at risk, or look elsewhere for riders willing to ride for the money offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 18, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2024 On 1/17/2024 at 11:30 PM, Neila said: Yea but dome riders have a high opinion of themselves and want more money than offered, then feel hard done by not having a team place !! Expand Do you know this for definite though? Is it any different to say bringing an Aussie over giving them digs for the season, a van and whatever else though? Add in the cost of this and it could be what another rider is wanting. Not saying it’s right or wrong but it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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