magnificentseven Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Birmingham are in a real mess - unless they make changes the losing run will continue and the fans will drift away. Really can't understand why they signed Milik - never rated him and he has never done anything in England. They still haven't worked out that Worrall is hopeless unless he can ride at number two - never understood why - it must be a confidence thing. Much has been made about Flint over the last couple of years but he is going nowhere and is not getting any better. If Klindt is available that might be an option but they need at least one more heat leader from somewhere even if they sign him - depends how deep Mr Tolley's pockets are but unless he does something its hard to see them lasting the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 30 minutes ago, TTT said: Don't really need him imo, Brum need riders with higher averages to take the pressure off S. Worrall. S. Worrall, Being the captain and riding as a HL is just too much pressure for a rider who's only ever been used to riding in the easy No.2 race jacket in this league. That's why I haven't given Worrall any stick, It's no surprise to see him struggling considering he's been chucked in head first at the deep end. Agree with your point about Worrall to a degree... But my point about Riss is why didn't we sign him instead of, or in place of Lampart ? Riss is better than Klindt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: Agree with your point about Worrall to a degree... But my point about Riss is why didn't we sign him instead of, or in place of Lampart ? Riss is better than Klindt. Worrall would be left as a HL then, Need to find a way to get Worrall at second string. Bringing Riss in for Lampart would've left the engine room looking like this going by GSA's (2. Z. Cook......3. Worrall.......4. Brennan with Riss at 6) But Klindt for Lampart leaves it looking like this (2. Brennan.....3. Klindt.....4. Worrall with Z. Cook at 6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, TTT said: Worrall would be left as a HL then, Need to find a way to get Worrall at second string. Bringing Riss in for Lampart would've left the engine room looking like this going by GSA's (2. Z. Cook......3. Worrall.......4. Brennan with Riss at 6) But Klindt for Lampart leaves it looking like this (2. Brennan.....3. Klindt.....4. Worrall with Z. Cook at 6) Worrall could have ridden at number 2 all season, normally I'd put the weakest top 5 rider at 2. But if it's the only way to get him to score points, put Worrall at 2 with Brennan & Lampart / Klindt in the 3&4 pairing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, TTT said: Worrall would be left as a HL then, Need to find a way to get Worrall at second string. Bringing Riss in for Lampart would've left the engine room looking like this going by GSA's (2. Z. Cook......3. Worrall.......4. Brennan with Riss at 6) But Klindt for Lampart leaves it looking like this (2. Brennan.....3. Klindt.....4. Worrall with Z. Cook at 6) On current form it shouldn't be too long before Zach is a Prem heat leader! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: On current form it shouldn't be too long before Zach is a Prem heat leader! I think you and I could be heat leaders in that team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 13 minutes ago, TTT said: Worrall would be left as a HL then, Need to find a way to get Worrall at second string. Bringing Riss in for Lampart would've left the engine room looking like this going by GSA's (2. Z. Cook......3. Worrall.......4. Brennan with Riss at 6) But Klindt for Lampart leaves it looking like this (2. Brennan.....3. Klindt.....4. Worrall with Z. Cook at 6) I see your point....albeit a little too technical for me ... LOL From what I've seen this season poor Stevie Worrall seems to be struggling in whatever position he rides! I think the trouble at Bham, is that the riders are not under any pressure to perform....they don't seem to be riding for their places!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Pre-season Riss wasn't a mistake sign rider. For example despite Ipswich starting a point under the limit, they preferred Rew (who averaged less than 4.00) over Riss whose average is above 5.00. So by that logic Lampart over Riss was a sensible pick, especially as Riss has been going downhill in recent years. Now Riss could turn that around, but that's no guarantee. Normally I'd suggest it's too early for changes, especially for a newcomer to British Speedway who could come good, but I'd sign Klint for Lampart, I wouldn't have signed Riss for Lampart. The added advantage of Klindt is he keeps Zach Cook at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Begs the question why didn't we try and sign Riss ??? Do you not remember the Riss we had? The one who grossly underperformed and frequently gave up at the back, on lap two or three then rode his bike back into the pits untroubled when the race finished ? I know I haven’t snd I know the management haven’t either. Wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole Edited April 16 by the hobbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 On 4/15/2024 at 8:23 AM, GiveusaB said: Be lucky if this meeting beats the weather today! Leicester way too strong for B'ham! If it goes ahead....I predict 38-52. You know before the match I thought you were being too negative, turns out you were spot on. Trying to be positive for the sake of British Speedway, but if Brummies can't win with Nicholls at reserve then Nicholls replacing Lampart, when will they win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 It's still early doors and line ups can change but I just feel like patience is zero with the fans due to how poor they've been for quite a while now. They showed promise early doors but this fixture against an out of form lions side is a huge opportunity missed. I just really don't get how all the fans can see that the team is poor but the the guys in charge of team building think its a decent side? How did Oxford put a semi decent side together but Birmingham couldn't? I know Oxford have a few quid lying around but tolley isn't afraid to cough up the money. Didn't he say he would sign Zmarlik if he wanted to ride here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Laguta is the answer to Birmingham's problems. Having the (real) world champion in the pits will inspire the rest of the team. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Laguta is the answer to Birmingham's problems. Having the (real) world champion in the pits will inspire the rest of the team. The "lineal" world champion... Never been beaten for the crown... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 5 hours ago, mikebv said: The "lineal" world champion... Never been beaten for the crown... Is that not Jan O'Pedersen or maybe Bruce Penhall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Is that not Jan O'Pedersen or maybe Bruce Penhall? They retired and vacated the crown.. Laguta hasn't done either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: They retired and vacated the crown.. So did Bluey Wilkinson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/16/2024 at 12:01 PM, GiveusaB said: Riss is better than Klindt. Using what logic because he isn’t. Klindt has out averaged Riss year in year out and is a decent dependable 3rd heat leader whereas Riss is just an average second string. Lampart maybe had the potential to be a hit in the UK (although evidence suggests not so far!) whereas little improvement in Riss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 13 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Using what logic because he isn’t. Klindt has out averaged Riss year in year out and is a decent dependable 3rd heat leader whereas Riss is just an average second string. Lampart maybe had the potential to be a hit in the UK (although evidence suggests not so far!) whereas little improvement in Riss. Sorry....I got lost in the 'chat'...I meant Riss is better than Lampart? Like I say....why arent Bham snapping Klindt up in place of Lampart? Klindt is arguably better than Worrall/Millik/Cook and Lampart??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I'm not sure that klindt is the answer. However if a change is going to happen soon ,milik would be the first because using common sense before he gets a true average. If he's on a 4 average someone will sign him at reserve , then will return to Perry Barr score double figures and we will be back to square one. Did I write common sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Petecc said: I'm not sure that klindt is the answer. However if a change is going to happen soon ,milik would be the first because using common sense before he gets a true average. If he's on a 4 average someone will sign him at reserve , then will return to Perry Barr score double figures and we will be back to square one. Did I write common sense? Not enough dirt on the track for Millik to score double figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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