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3 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

not sure I'll believe Birmingham's promises of a good team

The point is that everybody is just playing a guessing game at the moment. We're told that the first rider announcements will be made at the Supporters Club Xmas Party on 8th December. Let's wait and see what gets announced before either jumping for joy or jumping off a cliff.

I just hope that someone with top division experience is brought in to help with team building, because if the Brummies were disappointed at how they failed to land Vadim Tarasenko, then they ain't seen nothing yet. That was just a curveball. In the Premiership the teams chuck fastballs and someone whose peak of team building experience was the 2008 "American Dream Team" is no match for the top flight.

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3 minutes ago, Hooky said:

Polish lad with the initials PP may well be on his way to the Brummies in 2024….

Ahh, just because Piotr Protasiewicz appeared in the Jason Lyons farewell meeting doesn't mean that he'll be returning to ride for the Brummies next year. He retired a year or two ago. UNLESS you're expecting him to do "a Jason Crump" and shoe horn himself back into a race suit and give it another go, are you? Or is it some other Mickey Mouse rider that you're referring to?

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53 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

Ahh, just because Piotr Protasiewicz appeared in the Jason Lyons farewell meeting doesn't mean that he'll be returning to ride for the Brummies next year. He retired a year or two ago. UNLESS you're expecting him to do "a Jason Crump" and shoe horn himself back into a race suit and give it another go, are you? Or is it some other Mickey Mouse rider that you're referring to?

If you’d say Piotr Pawlicki is a Mickey Mouse rider then fair enough.

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2 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Not sure why B'ham can't announce the Team Manager before any 'rider' signings....

Really hoping that 'LR' has absolutely no say in team building

so, just who do you think is carrying out the current rider negotiations, if it is not Rogers ? Apparently we have several riders already signed. . Hope they aren’t Rogers’ signings. We sacked him last year because he was incompetent and the fans and owners had had enough of him. 
he attended the AGM , has  still got his hands on matters he should be no where near.

 

If Rogers picks the team, and God forbid, is named as team manager then I will not be attending next season, after being a fan since the ‘70’s !!!! 
 

I agree, the first announcement should have been the new team manager snd, it should have been announced ages ago. For all the good this promotion  have done, they still seem to be making the same rookie mistakes, the biggest being their dismal communication with the fans. I’ve read in the Brummies forum that apparently, Nigel has said the first two signings will be announced at the Xmas party on December the 8th. After NOTHING being announced on the club website for an eternity, keeping the fans in the dark, how stupid is it to keep the signings back so long snd keep all the fans in the dark? They should be banging out as much news snd social media stuff as possible , not treating the fans like mushrooms!!! 
 

We desperately need a damn good team this year to attract the fans back snd  we never have had snd, never will have anything other than a CRAP team when Rogers  has picked it. Sadly, unless the promotion announce otherwise, it seems we are in for more of the same. Nigel Tolley continually promised us teams capable of challenging for honours but it seems his view of a great team, is very naive!!! Time to get someone in that CAN  and DOES  know how to put together a good team.

sadly, it seems we are in for more I the same naive management snd I fear, more hot air snd empty promises. Nigel needs to walk the walk snd that starts it’s much better  communication, appointing a proper team manager, and minimising Roges’ involvement 

sadly, I think I am living in dream land , that I am in cuckoo land. I hope Nigel proves me wrong but, I doubt it 

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44 minutes ago, the hobbit said:

so, just who do you think i is carrying out the current rider negotiations, if it id not Rogers ? Apparent we have several riders already signed. . Hope they aren’t Rigers signings. We sacked him last year bec he was incompetent and the fans and owners had had enough of him. 
he attended the AGM , still got his hands on matters he should be no where near.

 

If Rogers picks the team, and God forbid, is named as team manager then I will not be attend next season, after being a fan since the ‘70’s !!!! 
 

I agree, the first announcement should have been the new team manager snd, it should have been announced ages ago. For all the good this promotion  have done, they still seem to be making the same rookie mistakes, the biggest being their dismal communication with the fans. I’ve read in the Brummies forum that apparently, Nigel has said the first two signings will be announced at the Xmas party on December the 8th. After NOTHING being announced on the club website for an eternity, keeping the fans in the dark, how stupid is it to keep the signings back so long snd keep all the fans in the dark? They should be banging out as much news snd social media stuff as possible , not treating the fans like mushrooms!!! 
 

We desperately need a damn good team this year to attract the fans back snd  we never have had snd, never will have anything other than a CRAP team when Rogers  has picked it. Sadly, unless the promotion announce otherwise, it seems we are in for more of the same. Nigel Tolley continually promised us teams capable of challenging for honours but it seems his view of a great team, is very naive!!! Time to get someone in that CAN  and DOES  know how to put together a good team.

sadly, it seems we are in for more I the same naive management snd I fear, more hot air snd empty promises. Nigel meds to walk the walk snd that starts its communication, appointing a proper team manager, and minimising Roges’ involvement 

sadly, I think I am living in dream land , am in cuckoo land. I hope Nigel proves me wrong but, I doubt it 

I can sense/feel your frustration and un-wavered loyalty and passion for the club....

I think Nigel made his best move for B'ham last season when (I hope) he realised that LR wasn't up to the job of TM and duly relieved him of team affairs....

So, with that in mind, I cant for one minute think that he'd allow LR to orchestrate things this season....obviously, 'we' will know that very soon, when signings are announced.

But, as I previously posted....the Team Manager should be the first signing/announcement IMO, if 'we' are going to take things seriously!

This is not a dig/criticism of LR....he does good things for the development/junior side of the sport.

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500 to 600 fans a week are not suddenly going to grow to 1200 a week, which you would think is a minimum to compete in Div 1..

No1 riders certainly dont come cheap, even with TV money to subsidise it..

A huge challenge for the Birmingham leadership team, let's hope they can deliver a competitive and affordable team on their support levels..

It certainly wont be easy, so best of luck to them..

Will go when the Aces are there if not on TV..

 

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34 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

I can sense/feel your frustration and un-wavered loyalty and passion for the club....

I think Nigel made his best move for B'ham last season when (I hope) he realised that LR wasn't up to the job of TM and duly relieved him of team affairs....

So, with that in mind, I cant for one minute think that he'd allow LR to orchestrate things this season....obviously, 'we' will know that very soon, when signings are announced.

But, as I previously posted....the Team Manager should be the first signing/announcement IMO, if 'we' are going to take things seriously!

This is not a dig/criticism of LR....he does good things for the development/junior side of the sport.

Surely Peter Adams is free on Monday nights?

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1 hour ago, Spidvej said:

Peter has already gone on record as saying he won’t be managing any team in 2024

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/sports-insure-premiership/adams-going-nowhere/

Bugger, thats a shame. But thank you for the info.

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Will be a big ask for Birmingham to attract former Wolves fans across to Perry Barr.  That will decide whether Birmingham speedway will survive.

Sadly speedway fans are a parochial and loyal bunch (including me) Never thought racing was as good as at New Cross after they closed down. Went along to support the opposition at Wimbledon  for a while..... but couldn't ever support the "dirty dons" 

Wonder how many Cradley supporters still attend speedway? 

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