Daniel Smith Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 I've added Lampart as a 7.00. It has to be with the points left, leaving room for 8.00ish & 7.50ish rider's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 No surprise here but the Pawlicki bros are 100% the last 2 riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Marksman said: No surprise here but the Pawlicki bros are 100% the last 2 riders If that is the case, it looks like a team who will benefit from a very low team average during the season so could, if anyone decent available, be able to redeclare and bring some better riders in... Looking at that suggested septet there could be large scope for changes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: If that is the case, it looks like a team who will benefit from a very low team average during the season so could, if anyone decent available, be able to redeclare and bring some better riders in... Looking at that suggested septet there could be large scope for changes.. Agreed, could be one change away mid season from a cracking side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Looking like an uncomfortable season for Birmingham if that's their team. Expect changes mid season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Going to wait and see who the last 2 signings are....but we haven't signed anyone yet that can win Ht.1.13.15....(as someone has already pointed out...) I'm writing to Santa today.....(I've been good all year...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: Looking like an uncomfortable season for Birmingham if that's their team. Expect changes mid season. I'm sorry to say, I expect closure mid season. Like the last couple of seasons, the team they have come up with is beyond a joke and clearly not competitive. They've still got over 15 and a half points to play with and that's assuming Lampart comes in on 7! I do hope I'm wrong and they pull a couple of big signings out of the hat Edited December 19, 2023 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 10 hours ago, stevebrum said: Good to see Lampart in UK speedway. Hopefully he can do something similar to Musielak and if on a 5 average could do very well. With the points limit left it must be 2 big hitters surely? If Schlein is one of the last 2 that’s a dreadful team whoever else signs. If Zagar is one of those final 2 it needs to be a Lindgrenesque type signing at number one. Birmingham really need to ensure those last 2 are benchmark signings or I fear for their 2024 season. Fingers crossed for 2 good heat leaders for them! Lets hope ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 If the Pawlicki's are the last two signings, I don't think the team looks that bad. Probably will finish bottom, but I think they'd still be competitive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: If the Pawlicki's are the last two signings, I don't think the team looks that bad. Probably will finish bottom, but I think they'd still be competitive. You think so …. Competitive ? Edited December 19, 2023 by the hobbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 34 minutes ago, iainb said: I'm sorry to say, I expect closure mid season. Like the last couple of seasons, the team they have come up with is beyond a joke and clearly not competitive. They've still got over 15 and a half points to play with and that's assuming Lampart comes in on 7! I do hope I'm wrong and they pull a couple of big signings out of the hat He's a 5.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: I've added Lampart as a 7.00. It has to be with the points left, leaving room for 8.00ish & 7.50ish rider's. Will be a 5.00 like Vadim was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, TTT said: He's a 5.00 around 17.5 left for 2 riders then... there's the possibility for a for a potentially great side there, let's hope they can do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: If the Pawlicki's are the last two signings, I don't think the team looks that bad. Probably will finish bottom, but I think they'd still be competitive. I'd agree with that, they should have the best bottom end apart from perhaps Oxford. They are probably finishing bottom without changes but they look competitive at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If the Pawlicki's are the last two signings, I don't think the team looks that bad. Probably will finish bottom, but I think they'd still be competitive. Competitive! Yes in the Championship, in the Premiership they will be cannon fodder for the big guns, and the supporters won't be wasting hard earned money watching them lose most weeks at Perry Barr, a long hard season ahead unless Lindgren or/and Laguta can be persuaded to sign. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, heathen52 said: Competitive! Yes in the Championship, in the Premiership they will be cannon fodder for the big guns, and the supporters won't be wasting hard earned money watching them lose most weeks at Perry Barr, a long hard season ahead unless Lindgren or/and Laguta can be persuaded to sign. Good grief, it's not that bad is it? What do you want Tolley to do? Sign riders way above his budget and go bankrupt long before the season has finished? Yes everybody wants a competitive team, but speaking as an Oxford fan, Birmingham fans should surely just be grateful they've got speedway to watch, no? The first season the Cheetahs came back, they were pretty woeful, but it was just great to have a team again. Sometimes we just need to be thankful for what we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bojangles said: Good grief, it's not that bad is it? What do you want Tolley to do? Sign riders way above his budget and go bankrupt long before the season has finished? Yes everybody wants a competitive team, but speaking as an Oxford fan, Birmingham fans should surely just be grateful they've got speedway to watch, no? The first season the Cheetahs came back, they were pretty woeful, but it was just great to have a team again. Sometimes we just need to be thankful for what we've got. Well....we've watched absolute Sh#te for the last 2 seasons....that's why attendance levels have been poor! Waiting on 2 decent heat leaders...it's a must IMO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 good heatleaders will make the team competitive. I think they can win home meetings no problem. When they go Sheffield, Ipswich, BV they need Cook, Brennan to step it up or they’ll get hit for 60 everywhere they go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Bojangles said: Good grief, it's not that bad is it? What do you want Tolley to do? Sign riders way above his budget and go bankrupt long before the season has finished? Yes everybody wants a competitive team, but speaking as an Oxford fan, Birmingham fans should surely just be grateful they've got speedway to watch, no? The first season the Cheetahs came back, they were pretty woeful, but it was just great to have a team again. Sometimes we just need to be thankful for what we've got. The difference is Oxford had the crowds due to the feel good factor of a club returning from the ashes. Birmingham have been on a downward trend for the last few years. No doubt their fans will be grateful to have some speedway to watch but there just isn't enough of them, there wasn't enough of them at CL level they'll no doubt get some Wolves punters but will that be enough? They've only gone PL due to the self administered straight jacket that British Speedway has put in itself in with race nights. Surely some kind of special dispensation could have been allowed to enable Birmingham to compete in the CL. No, instead we've got the unbelievable situation of Oxford having (?) to run in 3 leagues, I presume, to act as an insurance to keep the PL at 6 teams, should Birmingham go under midway through the season, to fulfil the TV contract obligations... I can think of no other reason for Oxford to be running 3 leagues?!? Edited December 19, 2023 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 If Brum get both Pawlicki's, I don't think it's a bad side in general. The interesting part will be whether these Pole's will be happy & comfortable trundling around at half speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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