GiveusaB Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Someone has to 'receive' the wooden Spoon...so for me, that's not an issue...what would be an issue and obviously the jury's still out...is that we sign 7 riders that get a walloping every week? Are our first 4 riders competitive compared to other teams 'similar' averaged riders? I don't know coz I don''t know the 'Prem' ? If they're not, then our final 3 have to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Someone has to 'receive' the wooden Spoon...so for me, that's not an issue...what would be an issue and obviously the jury's still out...is that we sign 7 riders that get a walloping every week? Are our first 4 riders competitive compared to other teams 'similar' averaged riders? I don't know coz I don''t know the 'Prem' ? If they're not, then our final 3 have to be! It's how you go about getting that wooden spoon though, it could go down to the last match of the season still being in with a chance of making the play offs... or you could secure it by June, at the moment it looks like the latter, surely the alarm bells must be ringing without the signing of a Number 1 yet, when all the other teams have their's and some have 2 number 1's. I can't imagine why the promotion would not have named him already unless there were serious issues around getting any of the riders in question. Apparently Zagar does not come cheap and he's certainly not a number 1 these days, you've got to be looking at the likes of Zmarzlik, Vaculik, Lindgren, Laguta, Madsen, Dudek... maybe Michelson or Thomson as an outside shout Edited December 14, 2023 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Seems like each season there's one club in particular that struggles to recruit suitable riders and I still have unpleasant memories of Leicester in the mid 1970's and during the ill-fated (and ill-advised) seasons in the Elite league under the Hemsley regime. Really hope this turns out not to be the case for the Brummies 2024 and you get some good breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, iainb said: It's how you go about getting that wooden spoon though, it could go down to the last match of the season still being in with a chance of making the play offs... or you could secure it by June, at the moment it looks like the latter, surely the alarm bells must be ringing without the signing of a Number 1 yet, when all the other teams have their's and some have 2 number 1's. I can't imagine why the promotion would not have named him already unless there were serious issues around getting any of the riders in question. Apparently Zagar does not come cheap and he's certainly not a number 1 these days, you've got to be looking at the likes of Zmarzlik, Vaculik, Lindgren, Laguta, Madsen, Dudek... maybe Michelson or Thomson as an outside shout EXACTLY! One can only assume that may be a 'sponsorship deal' is trying to be secured to enable the 'right' sort of calibre needed? Sometimes...no news is better than bad news ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, iainb said: It's how you go about getting that wooden spoon though, it could go down to the last match of the season still being in with a chance of making the play offs... or you could secure it by June, at the moment it looks like the latter, surely the alarm bells must be ringing without the signing of a Number 1 yet, when all the other teams have their's and some have 2 number 1's. I can't imagine why the promotion would not have named him already unless there were serious issues around getting any of the riders in question. Apparently Zagar does not come cheap and he's certainly not a number 1 these days, you've got to be looking at the likes of Zmarzlik, Vaculik, Lindgren, Laguta, Madsen, Dudek... maybe Michelson or Thomson as an outside shout You've got 4 of the top 5 in the GP in that list, the chances of them wanting to ride here/fancying Birmingham and Brum being able to afford them if they did must be virtually nil. Definitely worth asking though That leaves Laguta Dudek Michelsen or Thomson and Pawlicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 41 minutes ago, noaksey said: You've got 4 of the top 5 in the GP in that list, the chances of them wanting to ride here/fancying Birmingham and Brum being able to afford them if they did must be virtually nil. Definitely worth asking though That leaves Laguta Dudek Michelsen or Thomson and Pawlicki The BL has a lot to offer, a half decent pay packet and virtually zero pressure, that's why I believe a lot of riders have returned, it seems to be more "fun" over here, which is what most got into the sport for in the first place. Fortunately DSE are doing their level best to destroy the GP series and that can only be a good thing for league Speedway in the UK. Magic has returned for next season and I fully expect him to excel in a pressure free environment. The TV money that clubs get in the top league, I am led to believe, should go a long long way to covering the expense of a Number 1, Birmingham may be using that money to subsidise their (possibly) suicidal move back into the top league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Here’s hoping Tv covers Brummies expenses.Big Gamble IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, iainb said: The BL has a lot to offer, a half decent pay packet and virtually zero pressure, that's why I believe a lot of riders have returned, it seems to be more "fun" over here, which is what most got into the sport for in the first place. Fortunately DSE are doing their level best to destroy the GP series and that can only be a good thing for league Speedway in the UK. Magic has returned for next season and I fully expect him to excel in a pressure free environment. The TV money that clubs get in the top league, I am led to believe, should go a long long way to covering the expense of a Number 1, Birmingham may be using that money to subsidise their (possibly) suicidal move back into the top league. Freddie and P.Pawlicki would make a decent team ...Need Z.Cook at number 6.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: Freddie and P.Pawlicki would make a decent team ...Need Z.Cook at number 6.. I heard previously that Freddie turned them down, so if that still stand's then it has to be Laguta and Pawlicki Jnr which them leaves Schlein or Lampart if its Schlein then Cook starts the season at reserve, if its Lampart then he will start the season at reserve. If Brum have not signed a genuine No1 with a good back up second Heat leader then they are wasting there time and money being in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, heathen52 said: I heard previously that Freddie turned them down, so if that still stand's then it has to be Laguta and Pawlicki Jnr which them leaves Schlein or Lampart if its Schlein then Cook starts the season at reserve, if its Lampart then he will start the season at reserve. If Brum have not signed a genuine No1 with a good back up second Heat leader then they are wasting there time and money being in the PL. Cook would make a good reserve ..but they need a good No 1 and 5 to stand any chance ..Lets see what they end up with before we start moaning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, heathen52 said: I heard previously that Freddie turned them down, so if that still stand's then it has to be Laguta and Pawlicki Jnr which them leaves Schlein or Lampart if its Schlein then Cook starts the season at reserve, if its Lampart then he will start the season at reserve. If Brum have not signed a genuine No1 with a good back up second Heat leader then they are wasting there time and money being in the PL. I've seen a couple of people mention that Freddie has said no, one of them I know is well connected to someone in the sport so it might be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, noaksey said: I've seen a couple of people mention that Freddie has said no, one of them I know is well connected to someone in the sport so it might be true Yeah someone connected said it was'nt Freddie that said no, it was someone else that did'nt want him to ride in the Uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Ha ha... all these rumours are a load of bollo# ! Lol Guess...guess...guess... !!! Lets just wait and see... the club know what they need and are obviously working on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 1:34 PM, Ghosty said: Wasn't Sam the team manager of the Reading Bulldogs? If so he will have some experence as a team manager, but I doubt that his services will come cheap! No he wasn’t, he was technical advisor. Jim Lynch was the team manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just to add to the chinese whispers Covatti signs for plymouth and wouldnt mind a place in the prem, only one team not complete?, good friends with Phil Morris and Morris has a good relationship with Brum. Conjecture and rumour keeps this thread going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 16 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Ha ha... all these rumours are a load of bollo# ! Lol Guess...guess...guess... !!! Lets just wait and see... the club know what they need and are obviously working on it... As we someone else said earlier in the topic, one rider to be announced on Wednesday gone which it was Zach Cook, another will be announced next Wednesday which will probably be Rory Schlein, It's the Club itself creating this guessing game by delaying these announcements, What we all want to know and where the guessing comes in is who will be the No1 and second heat leader these two riders will basically make or break Birmingham's season, plenty of choices out there but getting them to sign is a different kettle of fish, I personally think the No1 has to be a top GP rider, and the 2nd Heat leader has to be a rider that can bang in double figures at home week in week out as a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Why would Shamek Pawlicki be such a bad signing and Tobi Musielak is considered a fabulous signing for kings Lynn . Pawlicki average 2.412 in Polish liga 2 (20 matches ) Musielak average 1.944 in Polish Liga 2 (18 matches ) Maybe there is more to it than I know . But just looking at the bare stats Shamek had a really good season last year ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Why would Shamek Pawlicki be such a bad signing and Tobi Musielak is considered a fabulous signing for kings Lynn . Pawlicki average 2.412 in Polish liga 2 (20 matches ) Musielak average 1.944 in Polish Liga 2 (18 matches ) Maybe there is more to it than I know . But just looking at the bare stats Shamek had a really good season last year ... S.Pawlicki isnt good enough to be 1or 5.Poland is different to riding here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Why would Shamek Pawlicki be such a bad signing and Tobi Musielak is considered a fabulous signing for kings Lynn . Pawlicki average 2.412 in Polish liga 2 (20 matches ) Musielak average 1.944 in Polish Liga 2 (18 matches ) Maybe there is more to it than I know . But just looking at the bare stats Shamek had a really good season last year ... Musielak has a proven 8 plus ave in England ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 This story has just popped up on msn(new or old news?) https://www.business-live.co.uk/commercial-property/major-regeneration-plans-old-birmingham-28298333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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