JamesHarris Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 1:14 AM, Spidvej said: No, that’s incorrect Ryan Douglas likely to be at Leicester for starters. Sam Masters would, I should think, double up with Oxford Spires in the Premiership and Oxford Cheetahs in the Championship. Well 3 of the 2023 Wolves have already been signed so if you take out the rising star that's already half your team mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Not much in it really both Pawlicki brothers are better than Musielak on the continent, Musielak has spent an awful lot more time riding in GB than either Pawlicki. Covatti may have made an OK engine room signing, his signing would be as disastrous as Schien at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 18 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Why would Shamek Pawlicki be such a bad signing Why the fixation about Shamek when his star is on a consistent wane in Poland? Just because he once rode for Coventry in the days when his star was rising, doesn't make it a good idea to sign him now. If you want to sign a young Polish rider who is on the upward part of his career curve, try Oskar Fajfer. For his first year in the Ekstraliga last year, that lad did well, and will only improve from here on in, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) On 12/15/2023 at 2:08 PM, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Why would Shamek Pawlicki be such a bad signing and Tobi Musielak is considered a fabulous signing for kings Lynn . Pawlicki average 2.412 in Polish liga 2 (20 matches ) Musielak average 1.944 in Polish Liga 2 (18 matches ) Maybe there is more to it than I know . But just looking at the bare stats Shamek had a really good season last year ... On 12/15/2023 at 2:50 PM, Pauldoveyspeedway said: S.Pawlicki isnt good enough to be 1or 5.Poland is different to riding here... @Pauldoveyspeedway if you (not just you, many are not rating Przemek) are saying racing in Poland is different to racing in GB (which it clearly is) you could use that as a reason to SUGGEST Przemysław Pawlicki won't be as good as Musielak over here, or that he won't be a guaranteed "number one" but that doesn't mean he WON'T / CAN'T be better than Musielak! For example Sayfutdinov is better than Doyle in GB & Poland, Doyle is better than Holder in GB but not the GPs. Bewley is better than Fricke in the GPs So Pawlicki could be better than Musielak over here, but could also not be! Edited December 17, 2023 by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/13/2023 at 8:06 PM, Pumpy said: All this worry before team is fully announced . Give them a chance . Also. We don’t know how the poles will perform . nobody rated Tarrasenko yet he turned out pretty good at Pererborough. Let’s wait and see . For the sake of the sport , Birmingham need a competitive team Anybody with an ounce of Polish speedway knowledge knew/knows how good Tarasenko is. Anybody who didn’t rate him was missing a trick as he is a quality speedway rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 8:52 AM, uk_martin said: Why the fixation about Shamek when his star is on a consistent wane in Poland? Just because he once rode for Coventry in the days when his star was rising, doesn't make it a good idea to sign him now. If you want to sign a young Polish rider who is on the upward part of his career curve, try Oskar Fajfer. For his first year in the Ekstraliga last year, that lad did well, and will only improve from here on in, Consistent wane? Have a day off. Shamek has just had a fabulous season in Poland where he was almost unbeatable in the Polish second tier in the first half of the season, before injury but still ultimately leading ZG to the league title. He had a great season in Sweden and performed well in individual comps too, only just missing out on the GPs for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Craig Cook ??? just a random suggestion....goes great at PB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMiller Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Craig Cook ??? just a random suggestion....goes great at PB! Until he throws a tantrum and goes awol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Would Shamek come in on his last Poole average of 6.75? Looking at the 2024 confirmed thread, they have 22.59 left - if Shamek is 6.75 then Tarasenko 6.94 and Laguta 8.43 could fit with him. Would be one of the strongest in the league but would cost a pretty penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, DJC said: Would Shamek come in on his last Poole average of 6.75? Looking at the 2024 confirmed thread, they have 22.59 left - if Shamek is 6.75 then Tarasenko 6.94 and Laguta 8.43 could fit with him. Would be one of the strongest in the league but would cost a pretty penny. Tarasenko is at kings lynn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, castrolargh said: Tarasenko is at kings lynn Of course he is! New baby and no sleep in a week, I had to do the maths 5 times, didn't even think to check if he was elsewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DJC said: Of course he is! New baby and no sleep in a week, I had to do the maths 5 times, didn't even think to check if he was elsewhere! Good maths though! More importantly...'Congratulations' ! Edited December 18, 2023 by GiveusaB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidvej Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Najjer said: Consistent wane? Have a day off. Shamek has just had a fabulous season in Poland where he was almost unbeatable in the Polish second tier in the first half of the season, before injury but still ultimately leading ZG to the league title. He had a great season in Sweden and performed well in individual comps too, only just missing out on the GPs for next year. Ah yes, but Najjer, as you probably realise by now, some of the jokers on this forum think speedway ends at Dover ! Shamek was really good in 1. Liga this year. Should either or both Pawlicki brothers end up in riding in the UK at any point this season, they will be fine. The unpalatable truth for some is that the British Leagues aren’t what they used to be. UK speedway itself is what’s on the wane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Spidvej said: Ah yes, but Najjer, as you probably realise by now, some of the jokers on this forum think speedway ends at Dover ! Shamek was really good in 1. Liga this year. Should either or both Pawlicki brothers end up in riding in the UK at any point this season, they will be fine. The unpalatable truth for some is that the British Leagues aren’t what they used to be. UK speedway itself is what’s on the wane. Agree, and the idea that Vaculik, Kubera or Michelsen will ride here while still in the GP's is fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Spidvej said: Ah yes, but Najjer, as you probably realise by now, some of the jokers on this forum think speedway ends at Dover ! Shamek was really good in 1. Liga this year. Should either or both Pawlicki brothers end up in riding in the UK at any point this season, they will be fine. The unpalatable truth for some is that the British Leagues aren’t what they used to be. UK speedway itself is what’s on the wane. Totally agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Totally agree! In the recent Speedway Star Polish speedway 'round-up', it was PIOTR Pawlicki who stated he was looking at doing British racing in 2024! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: In the recent Speedway Star Polish speedway 'round-up', it was PIOTR Pawlicki who stated he was looking at doing British racing in 2024! Where can find a website that shows all the riders racing on Poland. I can find the extra liga riders but not much else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Where can find a website that shows all the riders racing on Poland. I can find the extra liga riders but not much else R&R in the International section posted a website link to all leagues in the Polish Ekstraliga section. It was back in October I think.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Where can find a website that shows all the riders racing on Poland. I can find the extra liga riders but not much else https://speedwayteams2024.blogspot.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Lampart confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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