Technik Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 In the home meetings Klindt has been far from his best & I think that come the end of the month the averages would put him at reserve. weather thats good or bad I don't know but if he was employed to score points at home & he ain't doing it then change it up if you can. Points win prizes & with such a small league thats what it's all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stbender Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Shame to see such early changes especially with Oxford doing relatively well so far this season. I think this is just the start of a merry go round for teams like Oxford, Kings Lynn, Birmingham and possibly Leicester as they did last season. I would say the finances of success are far more lucrative than previous seasons and therefore promotors will chop far quicker than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) An alternate view of the change regarding guests. Now like most people, I'm not a fan of guests but agree they are a "necessary evil". One of my biggest bugbears about them is there's no incentive whatsoever to sign a replacement, when guests are allowed. Now we have a team (Oxford) with an injured rider (Kerr) and a willing replacement (Riss) but they've decided to instead to replace Klindt because they'd rather use guests. So is there a rule / should there be a rule where the BSPL / SCB say to Oxford, you can't drop Klindt just because you'd prefer to use guests? Would be different if Riss didn't fit for Kerr obviously. I almost feel like "why should Oxford be allowed a guest, when they could easily change the team & not need one"? Edited April 16 by szkocjasid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Now Nicholls os guesting I can understand why they chose not to use Klindt & Riss. But I also think if they kept Klindt, they could've used Nicholls at reserve. So is Nicholls (top 5) with Riss (reserve) stronger than Klindt (top 5) with Nicholls (reserve)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Riss for Klindt is obviously a strange one taken in isolation, surely another change is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I think the Schroeck meister has a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I see Vaculík has been mentioned on Facebook, although no idea how reliable that is…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Klindt's average being nearly 2 points higher than Riss must be a factor, points that can be used elsewhere in the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 (edited) 23 hours ago, orion said: I think we been waiting 10 seasons for him to find his form..Every year its the same what a great signing he is ...Riss is just another guy who always lets you down..still have no idea why people thought this was a great side.. It is a very good side and easily capable of challenging for honours if all the riders performed to their expected level but they haven't and if Janowski performs like he has for Oxford in Poland they won't let him ride here anymore. Edited April 17 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 11 minutes ago, foreverblue said: It is a very good side and easily capable of challenging for honours if all the riders performed to their expected level but they haven't and if Janowski performs like he has for Oxford in Poland they won't let him ride here anymore. Did you see Janowski’s opening match for Wroclaw? He was far worse for them than he has been for Oxford! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Najjer said: Did you see Janowski’s opening match for Wroclaw? He was far worse for them than he has been for Oxford! Yes I did see that so his days are numbered at Oxford I would think unless he turns it round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: Klindt's average being nearly 2 points higher than Riss must be a factor, points that can be used elsewhere in the team. And there'll be even more headroom when Janowski gets a real average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/16/2024 at 11:11 AM, szkocjasid said: Totally agree with these comments, Ross for Kerr, then decide who to drop when Kerr returns, seems an obvious solution. Id agree with that so this decision is barmy? Riss is a downgrade on Klindt so the only sense is another change coming as well? the season is barely a month old tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 17 hours ago, szkocjasid said: An alternate view of the change regarding guests. Now like most people, I'm not a fan of guests but agree they are a "necessary evil". One of my biggest bugbears about them is there's no incentive whatsoever to sign a replacement, when guests are allowed. Now we have a team (Oxford) with an injured rider (Kerr) and a willing replacement (Riss) but they've decided to instead to replace Klindt because they'd rather use guests. So is there a rule / should there be a rule where the BSPL / SCB say to Oxford, you can't drop Klindt just because you'd prefer to use guests? Would be different if Riss didn't fit for Kerr obviously. I almost feel like "why should Oxford be allowed a guest, when they could easily change the team & not need one"? 100%... Guests don't have to be a "necessary evil" if some organisation and pro-activity was involved. Why don't the BSP sound out all the riders and list those willing to ride over here and use that for "emergencies" or team changes..? Some may only want a month some may want a whole season, it doesn't matter.. These "sub's on the bench" will replace guests, as and when required... Minimum 28 day contract so no "one off, horses for courses" ringers getting brought in (as happens now with guests), and using the average system (which they so slavishly do even though it is inherently flawed), would mean no one can manipulate the system (I know. I know!)... It would also mean competition for places and you could put a deadline for "no more changes" well before the play offs, meaning no "ringers" getting parachuted in (unless it is in the interest of Speedway obviously). I personally still think that, given the lack of riders of a "certain level", six rider teams would benefit (currently), the UK... eg there would be 7 riders in the current one to sixes that wouldn't have a place, but would be available to cover, (plus Scott obviously), if they chose to keep the RS and rode them at No6... Much better for the sports credibility and would mean a team place in the UK wasn't a given regardless of performance, which can happen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I've seen quite a few comments on fb especially, suggesting that Riss for Klindt is part of a plan to replace Kerr with a stronger rider, but that doesn't make any difference. Oxford are now on 37.88, they can replace Kerr (5.32) with the spare 2.12, so 7.44 available for a replacement. If Riss replaced Kerr instead of Klindt, the team would average 39.24, so they'd have an extra 0.76 to replace Klindt (6.68) which is 7.44! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 11 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I've seen quite a few comments on fb especially, suggesting that Riss for Klindt is part of a plan to replace Kerr with a stronger rider, but that doesn't make any difference. Oxford are now on 37.88, they can replace Kerr (5.32) with the spare 2.12, so 7.44 available for a replacement. If Riss replaced Kerr instead of Klindt, the team would average 39.24, so they'd have an extra 0.76 to replace Klindt (6.68) which is 7.44! There was an interview with Peter Schroeck during the interval of the Cheetahs match last night and he was adamant Kerr wasn't being replaced. "He will be out for five weeks, and we'll use guests...with Scott Nicholls already agreed to take a few of those bookings" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bojangles said: There was an interview with Peter Schroeck during the interval of the Cheetahs match last night and he was adamant Kerr wasn't being replaced. "He will be out for five weeks, and we'll use guests...with Scott Nicholls already agreed to take a few of those bookings" That confuses me even more: 1) I can't believe they only gave Klindt 4 matches 2) I can't believe they didn't think to sign Riss for Kerr & if after 5 weeks Klindt hasn't picked up his scoring then drop him 3) I can't believe with 7.44 available to replace Klindt, Riss is the best they can come up with 4) I can believe, but kinda disappointed the BSPL / SCB allowed Oxford to drop Klindt because they'd prefer to use guests Edited April 18 by szkocjasid 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: That confuses me even more: 1) I can't believe they only gave Klindt 4 matches 2) I can't believe they didn't think to sign Riss for Kerr & if after 5 weeks Klindt hasn't picked up his scoring then 3) I can't believe with 7.44 available to replace Klindt, Riss is the best they can come up with 4) I can believe, but kinda disappointed the BSPL / SCB allowed Oxford to drop Klindt because they'd prefer to use guests Couldn’t agree with all of your points any more if I tried. Edited April 18 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 13 minutes ago, Najjer said: Couldn’t agree with all of your points any more if I tried. Same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: That confuses me even more: 1) I can't believe they only gave Klindt 4 matches 2) I can't believe they didn't think to sign Riss for Kerr & if after 5 weeks Klindt hasn't picked up his scoring then 3) I can't believe with 7.44 available to replace Klindt, Riss is the best they can come up with 4) I can believe, but kinda disappointed the BSPL / SCB allowed Oxford to drop Klindt because they'd prefer to use guests You need to try and start believing ! sorry...I couldn't resist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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