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11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Are you thick? Seriously? 

Given your history on here - a little surprised you fell for that one! :D

There was a few good riders on show - I suppose they were in the shop window if nothing else. If the also rans - Finland, etc had another rider as backup then it could have been more competitive, as it was I enjoyed it anyway. I expect it will be largely full for saturday lets just hope the weather is nice!

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Tuesday and Wednesday was never going to most for the event the budget I’m sure will be from the Friday and Saturday crowds. 
 

Fridays crowd for a junior meeting is excellent. Way above I imagined they would think they have got. But Saturday is lower than. They thought they would have 


England on tonight so probably even less there today than yesterday  

 

we had a good 13 hours of heavy rain yesterday so to get a meeting on was good  although left the track very grippy which affected the racing  hopefully they will take the dirt of today leaving a better prepared track for racing  it’s also harder to predict the 3rd place team today so

should be fun 

 

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2 hours ago, Pinny said:

The sooner they bring back the 4 or 5 man sides the better. Never seen the appeal in this format, its horrendous. 

They did that last year. It didn’t make a difference to the crowd levels for the qualifiers. Wrocław only had the main grandstand open and there were more people in the pits than in the stand all three nights

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10 hours ago, Shockster said:

Daniil Medvedev has played and won at Wimbledon today.  What's the difference with Sayfutdinov & Laguta etc.  Tarasenko and Emil ride over here.  Seems ok to ride in league matches but not international.  A bit hypocritical if I'm honest.  They don't stop being Russian in the league.  Appreciate they'd have to ride under a blank flag with no anthems etc.

Don't forget the rusky riders gave the meeting a miss when they could ride for Russia, something to do with money, so there's no way they are going to do it now

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I don't see why Emil and Artem etc. can't compete in the Grand Prix under a neutral flag (i.e like Medvedev at Wimbledon), but team sports is a completely different matter. If they are competing under a neutral flag, they essentially have no nation to represent and therefore have no team to represent. I can't think of a single sport where neutral athletes compete in a team.

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13 hours ago, Hawk127 said:

Why not have a qualifying system for the next time it is held. SoN 2 winners qualify and the teams that fail as in this current round of meetings are effectively relegated to SoN 2. Mix it up and then follow your formula.

Can't see any benefit of having France and Italy in front of Finland, bearing in mind the scores in the first semi-final, plus Finland qualifying for the final two years ago.

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1 hour ago, BackInTheDHSS said:

I don't see why Emil and Artem etc. can't compete in the Grand Prix under a neutral flag (i.e like Medvedev at Wimbledon), but team sports is a completely different matter. If they are competing under a neutral flag, they essentially have no nation to represent and therefore have no team to represent. I can't think of a single sport where neutral athletes compete in a team.

The Olympics...

Russian participants under no national flag...

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Just now, BackInTheDHSS said:

They compete in individual events, though. Are there any team events?

It is all a team event...

Hence Team GB...

All medals get tallied for the country for the "league table"..

You also have several cycling team events, relay in athletics, several rowing events, gymnastics have a team discipline, and obviously football and soon to be cricket!!

And probably a fair few I have missed..

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5 minutes ago, mikebv said:

It is all a team event...

Hence Team GB...

All medals get tallied for the country for the "league table"..

You also have several cycling team events, relay in athletics, several rowing events, gymnastics have a team discipline, and obviously football and soon to be cricket!!

And probably a fair few I have missed..

It's not in the Russians case though is it? They don't compete for their country, they compete individually and with no country allegiance. All those 'team events' you mentioned won't include any neutral athletes, other than in an individual capacity (no relays etc.)

The 'neutral' flag also covers athletes from more than just Russia (Belarus as well). The neutral flag won't appear in the medals table, either, for that exact reason. So it's a completely different scenario.

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Wonder if the nightingale stand on 3/4 turn will be used tonight ? All the other teams riders mechanics and general hangers on were there last night too, strangely also saw rune holta there, probably made up half the crowd in the main stand 

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just got back from Poland yesterday night just missed 1st race last night, ok meeting but not even the GPs creates  as good a atmosphere as the meeting between zielonagora  and leszno Sunday night stadium packed out and the cheering and chanting between the fans was crazy. well worth a visit.

 

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15 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said:

It's not in the Russians case though is it? They don't compete for their country, they compete individually and with no country allegiance. All those 'team events' you mentioned won't include any neutral athletes, other than in an individual capacity (no relays etc.)

The 'neutral' flag also covers athletes from more than just Russia (Belarus as well). The neutral flag won't appear in the medals table, either, for that exact reason. So it's a completely different scenario.

Russia under the banner of the Russian Olympics Committee have won medals at team events in past Olympics including 2020 (2021). It was created due to widescale and uncontrolled doping throughout in Russia over recent years. Of course, Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine until 2022. Russian athletes plus those from Belarus will not compete as the ROC in Paris this year but Instead under the Individual Neutral Athletes organisation (AIN). The number of participants permitted to compete is expected to be significantly less than in previous championships.

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24 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Wonder if the nightingale stand on 3/4 turn will be used tonight ? All the other teams riders mechanics and general hangers on were there last night too, strangely also saw rune holta there, probably made up half the crowd in the main stand 

Looked at tickets available for Final in temporary stand .There are only about 20 seats TAKEN.

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4 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

just got back from Poland yesterday night just missed 1st race last night, ok meeting but not even the GPs creates  as good a atmosphere as the meeting between zielonagora  and leszno Sunday night stadium packed out and the cheering and chanting between the fans was crazy. well worth a visit.

 

A great experience...

Watching a "proper team sport" with much (pardon the pun), riding on each meeting given the rewards and losses that take place depending on who are successful and who are not..

A real "tribal" atmosphere...

With not a "guest" in sight!!!;)

 

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2 minutes ago, tocha said:

Russia under the banner of the Russian Olympics Committee have won medals at team events in past Olympics including 2020 (2021). It was created due to widescale and uncontrolled doping throughout in Russia over recent years. Of course, Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine until 2022. Russian athletes plus those from Belarus will not compete as the ROC in Paris this year but Instead under the Individual Neutral Athletes organisation (AIN). The number of participants permitted to compete is expected to be significantly less than in previous championships.

Exactly. ROC in 2020 (2021) was very different from AIN (2024). Only 33 athletes in total are expected to compete under AIN in 2024.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it by the way, just pointing out that it's not just speedway that's preventing Russian athletes from competing as a neutral in team events. I can't think of any other sport that allows it. Individually is very different of course.

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30 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Wonder if the nightingale stand on 3/4 turn will be used tonight ? All the other teams riders mechanics and general hangers on were there last night too, strangely also saw rune holta there, probably made up half the crowd in the main stand 

Maybe asked to sit there in case a Mexican Wave gets started? 

The tractor lads and the start marshalls may be doing the same to keep it going...:D

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