OveFundinFan Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 (edited) Belle Vue was a cheap deal. Fans gone to Germany for euro football, some reported to have spent £12,000-£14,000 pounds. I bet they paying hotel prices of well over £200 per night. Problem is with British speedway is it is too cheap, supporters have got used to that and can’t move forward. Maybe the solution is to have a track tucked miles away from major cities, no hotels to have a hot meal, no beer on tap, no luxury bed…..track right out in the countryside……..like Malilla. Good track, worthy of world class speedway….just like BV. But When you go to Malilla I presume you take your own tent and gas ring. And it can still be wet. Yep, bit like BV. Interesting, when I saw shots of the grandstand crowd the majority seemed to be at the OAP age range. So OAP can afford it but younger working people can’t. Worries me…..the government seeing that, they could figure OAPs are getting too much pension and decide to cut it. Edited July 14 by OveFundinFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 7 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: This week there were over 90 fast races on the BV track, poor weather conditions too, yet the track held up, no rutting at all, that is quiet an achievement….. Wasn’t there a big rut on bend 2 that threw Dan Thompson off in the SON2 leading to a dislocated shoulder? The same rut that nearly caused a couple of other accidents on Friday night. Completely agree that the track came good for the final and that it is a great racetrack if you prefer your speedway flat out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 So where was woffinden haven't seen any footage of him anywhere in stadium????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Belle Vue was a cheap deal. Fans gone to Germany for euro football, some reported to have spent £12,000-£14,000 pounds. I bet they paying hotel prices of well over £200 per night. Problem is with British speedway is it is too cheap, supporters have got used to that and can’t move forward. Maybe the solution is to have a track tucked miles away from major cities, no hotels to have a hot meal, no beer on tap, no luxury bed…..track right out in the countryside……..like Malilla. Good track, worthy of world class speedway….just like BV. But When you go to Malilla I presume you take your own tent and gas ring. And it can still be wet. Yep, bit like BV. Interesting, when I saw shots of the grandstand crowd the majority seemed to be at the OAP age range. So OAP can afford it but younger working people can’t. Worries me…..the government seeing that, they could figure OAPs are getting too much pension and decide to cut it. The main problem with 99% of the posters on here have blinkers on and detached from how speedway is managed in this country. You can not compare pricing of speedway to any other sport or event and if you do it shows how ridiculous the sport has out priced itself. Looking across at the back straight stand last night a very densely packed area at exit of bend 2, but very sketchy in other areas. As for the stand on bends 3 & 4 says everything wrong with the pricing and planning, if their were any proper professional people involved with it Your last comment sums up this country and worthless workless new generation. Maybe we should have allowed the latest arrival of boat people and put them up in hotels local to increase the attendance. Speaks volumes that you want to tax the pensions of all the people who subsidise the country at the expense of proper people who had to work hard for the likes of yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 The only real permanent track in the UK that can hold such an event, for racing it is head and shoulders above any other viable venue. I doubt Belle Vue will be out of pocket to any great degree or if indeed any, the FIM would of been involved financially....why do folk look and try to find the negatives in a event that was well run, entertaining and finished with a win for Team GB...for me a great advert for British speedway. On here i often read about the glory days and how speedway was better in the day, SON is head and shoulders above the best pairs events in those days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KIRKYLANE Posted July 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14 9 hours ago, MARK246 said: What a complete mess of a meeting, promoting club losing money, 2nd and third better than a win, whatever happened to speedway. What attracted me to the sport was winner takes all, first past the flag wins, sad day for the sport as it dies a little bit more In a pairs event , then 4,3,2,0 is the correct scoring. to promote team racing for a pairs event. we should be celebrating a fantastic night of racing which culminated in a terrific grand final in heat 23. A massive thank you to Chris Morton who created/designed the track. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, secsy1 said: The main problem with 99% of the posters on here have blinkers on and detached from how speedway is managed in this country. You can not compare pricing of speedway to any other sport or event and if you do it shows how ridiculous the sport has out priced itself. Looking across at the back straight stand last night a very densely packed area at exit of bend 2, but very sketchy in other areas. As for the stand on bends 3 & 4 says everything wrong with the pricing and planning, if their were any proper professional people involved with it Your last comment sums up this country and worthless workless new generation. Maybe we should have allowed the latest arrival of boat people and put them up in hotels local to increase the attendance. Speaks volumes that you want to tax the pensions of all the people who subsidise the country at the expense of proper people who had to work hard for the likes of yourself I highly suspect that someone posting under the name OveFundinFan is a pensioner themselves. If he'd begun his last paragraph with 'worryingly' rather than 'interesting' his meaning would be much clearer. Anyway, no cause for worry, there's no chance of the government seeing the SoN or even knowing what speedway is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, AceBelle said: So where was woffinden haven't seen any footage of him anywhere in stadium????? Earlier in the day he was at Donnington park with his two daughters. Don't know how long he stayed there. Edited July 14 by Dornier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 8 hours ago, SUPERACE said: Stop the bollocks Steve, you weren't there the back straight was full, it was sold out that's a fact. I was there you couldn't move it was packed, why make things up? We could all see with our own eyes. No need to make anything up. It may have seemed full to you compared to a league meeting, but compare it to the 2016 meeting, where the back straight was a sea of heads. Even in 2021 there were far more on the back straight. If you don’t believe me, check out the videos on YouTube. If you say it was sold out, then the club offered less tickets for sale for the back straight. The even itself was very well run in very testing conditions, which is not the fault of BV. The final was excellent with some great races. And the best result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Superb spectacular racing all evening, but over shadowed by inept start marshal and referee on several occasions. Allowing gate positions of 1 and 4, 2 and 3 in one heat before intervention of another official. Best of all was the alleged starting gate fault with automatic timing for start failure. After Zmarzlik was excluded in Heat 11 in gate 3 in the rerun Kubera lined up in gate 3 (Wrong) Un wittingly and confused the referee panicked, causing mayhem and excuses started to flow with alleged failure of system and all the messing about. When they lined up for the race again Kubera was in his correct gate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 (edited) 6 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Belle Vue was a cheap deal. Fans gone to Germany for euro football, some reported to have spent £12,000-£14,000 pounds. I bet they paying hotel prices of well over £200 per night. Problem is with British speedway is it is too cheap, supporters have got used to that and can’t move forward. Maybe the solution is to have a track tucked miles away from major cities, no hotels to have a hot meal, no beer on tap, no luxury bed…..track right out in the countryside……..like Malilla. Good track, worthy of world class speedway….just like BV. But When you go to Malilla I presume you take your own tent and gas ring. And it can still be wet. Yep, bit like BV. Interesting, when I saw shots of the grandstand crowd the majority seemed to be at the OAP age range. So OAP can afford it but younger working people can’t. Worries me…..the government seeing that, they could figure OAPs are getting too much pension and decide to cut it. If British Speedway is too cheap, then it is in more trouble than I thought.Your theory must be double the admission will double the crowd. ps Younger people can probably afford it but are just not interested Edited July 14 by Fromafar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 it is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Discovery and there tentacles are arguably the biggest media company in the world and pretty much dictate what is seen on our TV screens, serious question,apart from mentions during the Monday night speedway meetings and the odd mention during the superbikes did anyone else see any advertising of our prestigious event anywhere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 44 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: We could all see with our own eyes. No need to make anything up. It may have seemed full to you compared to a league meeting, but compare it to the 2016 meeting, where the back straight was a sea of heads. Even in 2021 there were far more on the back straight. If you don’t believe me, check out the videos on YouTube. If you say it was sold out, then the club offered less tickets for sale for the back straight. The even itself was very well run in very testing conditions, which is not the fault of BV. The final was excellent with some great races. And the best result. In 2016 the capacity in the southstand was a lot greater than it is now also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Well done to GB, Lambert the best rider on the night and Bewley backed him up well after those first two rides. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 What a week! Most of it has been said already, I did it about as cheap as I could, £123 for a 4 day South Stand ticket, around £85 on fuel for 4 Leicester to Belle Vue return car trips, £0 for on street parking, £0 for a programme, I used the SGP app and around £10 for food (Aldi Salads ). The South Stand may have been Health & Safety full and a sell out, but it certainly wasn't full full. It may have been sardines in some areas but in the area I was standing it certainly wasn't sardine full. The Speedway, can't fault it, even when the track was less than perfect (for Belle Vue) it still produced some breathtaking action and the cherry on the icing on top of the cake a Team GB win, absolutely fantastic and great to be part of it live. The temporary stand though, we can only hope that this hasn't jeopardised the future of Belle Vue Speedway. Sadly we'll probably only ever know if it was a success or not by the survival of the promotion or whether any events like this ever return to the NSS. You'd think that the promotion should have had some leverage over WBD/FIM by "agreeing" to stage it as if they hadn't then basically every SoN/SWC will be held in Poland in the future which doesn't really make the competitions credible. There is probably a reason why Sweden haven't hosted these competitions since 2012! Well done GB CHAMPIONS! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Anyone know what was issue with Max Fricke? He was there there and did the autograph session etc but then I gather before the meeting on TV they said Kurtz would take all his rides. Was he ill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rob B said: Anyone know what was issue with Max Fricke? He was there there and did the autograph session etc but then I gather before the meeting on TV they said Kurtz would take all his rides. Was he ill? Nothing.Lemon said it was just a tactical change and had been discussed.He was ready to ride if needed. Edited July 14 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 12 minutes ago, iainb said: Wl ). The South Stand may have been Health & Safety full and a sell out, but it certainly wasn't full full. It may have been sardines in some areas but in the area I was standing it certainly wasn't sardine full. It was certainly sardine full at 2nd bend end, people were pushing past each other to get to toilets, beer etc, looked like stewards tried to do something about it but failed. You can sell 1200 in there most go to 2nd bend end as that’s the first entrance from entering stadium and in speedway most people prefer 1st/2nd bend to 3rd/4th bend (another issue with temp stand) so the 3rd bend end will look more sparse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Well done to the lads, great win for GB, Shame it wasnt shown on eurosport as Britain was stageing it this year it would have made sense. Dont see why the supporters of the host country should have to fork out more money to watch it on discovery. I assume if had been in Poland it would have got full coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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