Bagpuss Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 Yep, Barker definitely > Hume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 7:02 AM, Phil The Ace said: He said he will be ready for start of the season last night at the maugers Interesting, I didn't expect that tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 7:35 AM, Arch Stanton said: If you’re starting with a blank canvas then sure, but just going off the Ellis rumour it leaves 4.16 for a sixth rider IF the limit is confirmed at 40 for six riders at the AGM. Emil, Doyle, King, Ellis, Rew leaves a 4.16 gap. Personally I’d take Barker over Hume (both fit) all day long. Looking at the Green Sheets, only options appear to be Rowe, Kemp, Hume and Barker. Who would you go for? Let’s not forget Barker is popular with the management here, apparently he’s great in the pits and is a good team man. He’d soon swap with Rew after the first set of averages and I think he’d score decent enough points at reserve. Edit: This is the Belle Vue thread not Ipswich, apologies. I can't see Rowe or Kemp as surely we would've used them last year as rising star. I would go Barker over Hume imo I don't think he'd chuck away as many points as Hume does when he comes under pressure from opposing riders. Unless they punt for another 4 point assessed average man? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Interesting news that brennan will not be riding for belle vue next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Interesting news that brennan will not be riding for belle vue next year We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. Agree with your post I would say however that at the tail end of the season Imo the travelling got to him a little and his form dipped a bit. next year he is riding in four leagues which will add even more travelling to his schedule this is on top of sgp qualifications rounds and riding for GB be interesting how he copes and if it affects his form with his new club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: We new that would be the case, victim of the averages unfortunately. Been great for the Aces, wish him good luck for next year. A victim of fighting with your team mates maybe? I've always thought Brennan comes across really well with his public persona but now he's been binned off by Glasgow & Belle Vue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Coventry_Bee said: I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. so instead of using a fair method of an average based on their actual form, you want everyone to be graded which isn't fair way at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, iainb said: A victim of fighting with your team mates maybe? I've always thought Brennan comes across really well with his public persona but now he's been binned off by Glasgow & Belle Vue I think he has probably reached his peak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Absolute nonsense! Can’t wait to see him prove you wrong. Why are we so good at writing off our own young talent in this country 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Absolutely ridiculous notion when you consider that he is 22 and racing in an era when many riders peak over 30 (Freddie Lindgren 38 this year for example), and has markedly improved his average every year including the current one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak At 22 give over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Not for me Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Coventry_Bee said: I do find the use of averages still a completely unnecessary system where teams that are successful are ripped apart. Teams are built to a decimal off the daft points limit and then we see multiple team changes throughout the year. Riders should be graded and throw the calculators in the bin. Not sure that would be any better, let's say for example 9.00 = grade A, 8.00 = grade B, 7.00 = grade C etc. An 8.99 rider is the same grade as an 8.00 rider. But a 7.99 rider is a whole grade below 8.00. Doesn't matter where the cut-off is, some riders would become far more valuable than others! The use of averages certainly has it's flaws, but it's the best system available imo. Edited November 8, 2023 by szkocjasid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 6 hours ago, therefused said: I think he has probably reached his peak Got some bites! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 6 hours ago, iainb said: A victim of fighting with your team mates maybe? I've always thought Brennan comes across really well with his public persona but now he's been binned off by Glasgow & Belle Vue Didn't he tell Glasgow he wasn't sure he was going to do Championship and they built their team before he decided he was going to do Championship after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 11 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Not sure that would be any better, let's say for example 9.00 = grade A, 8.00 = grade B, 7.00 = grade C etc. An 8.99 rider is the same grade as an 8.00 rider. But a 7.99 rider is a whole grade below 8.00. Doesn't matter where the cut-off is, some riders would become far more valuable than others! The use of averages certainly has it's flaws, but it's the best system available imo. Have an overall team average too... That way no one can sign the "best" within each grade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 15 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Didn't he tell Glasgow he wasn't sure he was going to do Championship and they built their team before he decided he was going to do Championship after all? Spot on Lisa, he was asked by Glasgow but couldn't decide if he was giving up championship and Glasgow didn't want to wait for a decision and miss out on team building 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Weeyin said: Spot on Lisa, he was asked by Glasgow but couldn't decide if he was giving up championship and Glasgow didn't want to wait for a decision and miss out on team building why the rush by the team or rider to decide? The AGM hasn't been started yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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