Wolfie456 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, AceBelle said: Stick to teletext Act your age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 9 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: Act your age. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Give rate a chance I'm sure belle Vue will soon be enjoying his rides when he misses gate or gets shoved out Hes not turned down other offers because he's not good enough He looks to be heading fir the top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestone1 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 There's nothing more amusing than people who get on their high-horse when they know absolutely nothing! Pretty sure you lot won't be complaining in a few weeks. Anyone who's seen Tate ride at Workington can see how much potential he has and how good he already is. Think Belle Vue fans need to see Heat 8 against Ipswich from BSN... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 When I look at a rider I like to look at the riders average. On the surface for a first season 6:96 is pretty impressive. But if you break his average down he is averaging 9:38 at home, and 4:71 away. That is big difference in those averages from home and away, and that would be my big concern if I was an Aces fan. But the Workington track appears to be very much like the National Stadium, so he should be okay at home, but away it might be a different matter. Will be interesting to see if he is the right man to replace Mountain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 3 hours ago, spin king said: When I look at a rider I like to look at the riders average. On the surface for a first season 6:96 is pretty impressive. But if you break his average down he is averaging 9:38 at home, and 4:71 away. That is big difference in those averages from home and away, and that would be my big concern if I was an Aces fan. But the Workington track appears to be very much like the National Stadium, so he should be okay at home, but away it might be a different matter. Will be interesting to see if he is the right man to replace Mountain. I'd be more worried by those numbers if it was his 2nd or 3rd season, but as it is it's his first visit to many of the away tracks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, iainb said: I'd be more worried by those numbers if it was his 2nd or 3rd season, but as it is it's his first visit to many of the away tracks And play offs are won on aggregate... The Aces have had some close calls this year at home so a big win delivers a much greater chance of qualification... Riding against the opposition reserves several times a night will certainly help him... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 18 hours ago, spin king said: When I look at a rider I like to look at the riders average. On the surface for a first season 6:96 is pretty impressive. But if you break his average down he is averaging 9:38 at home, and 4:71 away. That is big difference in those averages from home and away, and that would be my big concern if I was an Aces fan. But the Workington track appears to be very much like the National Stadium, so he should be okay at home, but away it might be a different matter. Will be interesting to see if he is the right man to replace Mountain. I think the big difference between his home & away matches makes his away average look worse than it is. If he was 5.71 home & 4.71 away, you could say that's a good first season in GB (better than many other newcomers). The gulf between the averages, shouldn't put you off him. If he can ride Belle Vue like he can ride Workington, then Ace move by Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 On 6/29/2024 at 10:26 PM, iainb said: He already has... twice! They seem to love it though, go figure Not with you. Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 17 minutes ago, ouch said: Not with you. Please elaborate. I've posted the details a while back or on another Belle Vue thread, but he's already ridden twice abroad and missed the next Aces match twice, 3rd time lucky tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 45 minutes ago, iainb said: I've posted the details a while back or on another Belle Vue thread, but he's already ridden twice abroad and missed the next Aces match twice, 3rd time lucky tonight Checked and you are correct. Brady 21/05/24 Injured 23/05/24 Missed Oxford away 25/05/24 Rode FIM like Collins & Carter etc…. 26/05/24-27/06/24 he rode one meeting in Poland, pulling out before completing his rides due to his injury issues. 28/06/24 Subsequently fit to take in his fixtures as they fell. I think you are justified in thinking the riders mentioned above are #+%*#^. I’m of a different opinion, which is what the forum is all about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ouch said: Checked and you are correct. Brady 21/05/24 Injured 23/05/24 Missed Oxford away 25/05/24 Rode FIM like Collins & Carter etc…. 26/05/24-27/06/24 he rode one meeting in Poland, pulling out before completing his rides due to his injury issues. 28/06/24 Subsequently fit to take in his fixtures as they fell. I think you are justified in thinking the riders mentioned above are #+%*#^. I’m of a different opinion, which is what the forum is all about. I totally get that riders can aggravate injuries upon making comeback. The SCB don't seem to accept this though unless the rider is injured in the UK, make their comeback in the UK and aggravate their injury in the UK... Or they didn't in Covatti's case as he got a 28 day suspension for less. It's not a good look in the Kurtz case though. At least Musielak fronted up and said he won't be riding in the UK for a while. Edited July 1 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 24 minutes ago, iainb said: I totally get that riders can aggravate injuries upon making comeback. The SCB don't seem to accept this though unless the rider is injured in the UK, make their comeback in the UK and aggravate their injury in the UK... Or they didn't in Covatti's case as he got a 28 day suspension for less. It's not a good look in the Kurtz case though. At least Musielak fronted up and said he won't be riding in the UK for a while. We can agree that the SCB are inconsistent in how rulings are dealt with but I disagree about Kurtz looking bad. He never had to say he wouldn’t ride in the UK as aside from his aborted attempt at a comeback and his chase for individual glory (as riders have done for decades), he hasn’t rode anywhere until fit this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 22 hours ago, spin king said: When I look at a rider I like to look at the riders average. On the surface for a first season 6:96 is pretty impressive. But if you break his average down he is averaging 9:38 at home, and 4:71 away. That is big difference in those averages from home and away, and that would be my big concern if I was an Aces fan. But the Workington track appears to be very much like the National Stadium, so he should be okay at home, but away it might be a different matter. Will be interesting to see if he is the right man to replace Mountain. You been to Workington? I fail to see the similarities you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, ouch said: We can agree that the SCB are inconsistent in how rulings are dealt with but I disagree about Kurtz looking bad. He never had to say he wouldn’t ride in the UK as aside from his aborted attempt at a comeback and his chase for individual glory (as riders have done for decades), he hasn’t rode anywhere until fit this weekend. Great post absolutely spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: You been to Workington? I fail to see the similarities you mention. It's not that different though is it? Wide, fast, sweeping bends, loads of racing lines etc. There are plenty of other tracks in the UK which are nothing like either of them. Edited July 1 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: It's not that different though is it? Wide, fast, sweeping bends, loads of racing lines etc. There are plenty of other tracks in the UK which are nothing like either of them. Don’t know what other tracks have to do with it.Workington is wide with racing lines,it has far shorter straights and much more of a circle than Belle Vue.IMO it is more like Scunthorpe in shape but wider corner entries..Im sure young Tate will have no trouble getting round any track . Very good racing at Worky though. Edited July 1 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 On 6/29/2024 at 3:13 PM, iainb said: He'll be safer in the PL than in Poland! Wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Connor Bailey has posted that he is out for the rest of the season, as 1 of his sponsors I wish him a full recovery, it takes guts to admit to struggling 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 After his guest performance for Leicester at the NSS I’d say Luke Killen is the obvious choice as the Rising Star to replace Bailey who has decided to take a break from the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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