therefused Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Team getting announced tonight? Any surprises or are all the rumours true? Are the Colts being announced tonight also? No surprises so far, blodorn, cook, mountain, bailey, lidsey announced, just the top two to go… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 So cook and mountain in for wright and Brennan? They look weaker to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, DJC said: So cook and mountain in for wright and Brennan? They look weaker to me They have to start the season on a lower team average than they ended last year with, so they were bound to be weaker.. Unless they could have got a "four point superstar" on an obviously false assessed average.. Personally I would have gone for a weaker No6 and replaced Blodorn with Charles Wright, as "the tail" looks too long if the Aces want to be title contenders... Thy don't look like they have that "4th Heat Leader" that they had with Wright, and, instead have two clear Second Strings and two clear reserves.. Edited December 8, 2023 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, mikebv said: They have to start the season on a lower team average than they ended last year with, so they were bound to be weaker.. Unless they could have got a "four point superstar" on an obviously false assessed average.. Like Lidsey last year....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, mikebv said: They have to start the season on a lower team average than they ended last year with, so they were bound to be weaker.. Unless they could have got a "four point superstar" on an obviously false assessed average.. Personally I would have gone for a weaker No6 and replaced Blodorn with Charles Wright, as "the tail" looks too long if the Aces want to be title contenders... Thy don't look like they have that "4th Heat Leader" that they had with Wright, and, instead have two clear Second Strings and two clear reserves.. I think it’s the mountain signing that jumps out for me the most. I expected a 4 pointer out of no where like Blodorn was to fill that other reserve spot. I guess the hope is that Blodorn kicks on and Cook establishes himself as that no4 heat leader. Tough ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Ipswich - Sheff look really good.then you have the rest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, DJC said: So cook and mountain in for wright and Brennan? They look weaker to me Of course, had to go from 42.74 to below 40, not going to get stronger! Key is improvement over the season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 There never is & never will be a "4th heat leader". Three heat leaders, two seconds strings & two reserves.... is a speedway team. Team is Ok, don't see it being able to challenge, may scrape the Play Offs. Other than possibly Blodorn & Bewley I don't see any improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) On 12/6/2023 at 6:12 PM, Chrisdonnelly said: Yeah really hard to watch the gps last season. Almost giving the championship to zmarzlik. Too many throttle jammers and not enough track craft used theses days. Zmarzlik is a throttle jammer, tends to go where he shouldn’t but gets away with it. But has finesse as well. One day it may all go wrong. I hope I am wrong n that. Edited December 9, 2023 by OveFundinFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Zmarzlik is a throttle jammer, Sorry can't agree with that at all I've never seen such a magician on s/way bike I always thought Mauger was the best but IMO Bart will become the GOAT ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Rob B said: Of course, had to go from 42.74 to below 40, not going to get stronger! Key is improvement over the season though. Ipswich look stronger, this team doesnt look good to me, Mountain will be a massive weak link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Col said: There never is & never will be a "4th heat leader". Three heat leaders, two seconds strings & two reserves.... is a speedway team. Team is Ok, don't see it being able to challenge, may scrape the Play Offs. Other than possibly Blodorn & Bewley I don't see any improvement. Don’t underestimate Ben Cook, he was very impressive last year after settling down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, bigcatdiary said: Don’t underestimate Ben Cook, he was very impressive last year after settling down Ben had a really good season but not sure he will improve much at Premiership level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Col said: There never is & never will be a "4th heat leader". Three heat leaders, two seconds strings & two reserves.... is a speedway team. Team is Ok, don't see it being able to challenge, may scrape the Play Offs. Other than possibly Blodorn & Bewley I don't see any improvement. Under the current team average, I'd argue there's only 1 heatleader & 4 2nd strings. Only the top averaged rider has a fixed position in the team. It's only OUR historic habits & Team Managers that 2nd in averages goes at No5 & 3rd goes at No3. Those days have long gone, the top 3 can ride at No1, No2, No4 if seen fit by the TM. Some teams are build with no heatleaders at all. We should change are view that someone placed at No2 & No4 are of lesser ability of a No3 & No5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 I thought the full team was being announced. Is there a surprise or shock waiting in the wings. Over to you Phil the ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, hyderd said: I thought the full team was being announced. Is there a surprise or shock waiting in the wings. Over to you Phil the ace You want more than 7 in the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Great side but was always gonna be weaker than last year. Will be strong at home but weaker away. I'd still be happy with that side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 hours ago, foreverblue said: Ipswich look stronger, this team doesnt look good to me, Mountain will be a massive weak link. Because Ipswich finished on 39.16 so they could get stronger!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Don’t underestimate Ben Cook, he was very impressive last year after settling down Ben Cook is the real improver .And Belle Vue are going to need him to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, mikebv said: They have to start the season on a lower team average than they ended last year with, so they were bound to be weaker.. Unless they could have got a "four point superstar" on an obviously false assessed average.. Personally I would have gone for a weaker No6 and replaced Blodorn with Charles Wright, as "the tail" looks too long if the Aces want to be title contenders... Thy don't look like they have that "4th Heat Leader" that they had with Wright, and, instead have two clear Second Strings and two clear reserves.. Could have had the top 3 +Wright Cook and Mountain and Bailey stronger imo. Edited December 9, 2023 by B.V 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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