SamKM91 Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 Kurtz Blodorn Lidsey B.Cook Bewley Mountain Bailey… easiest to predict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 8:29 PM, JoeW436 said: Not much between them but probably be a good idea for Tom to have a fresh start somewhere else, his progression has stalled slightly in the last 18 months. Think all the meetings Tom was doing caught up with him towards the end of last season The amount of travelling on himself and wear and tear on his equipment. Next season he's added another League I wouldn't be surprised if his average drops. Dont know the reason he was released couldn't have just been his average otherwise we could have kept James Maybe Mark thought he was taking to much on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, DBP said: Think all the meetings Tom was doing caught up with him towards the end of last season The amount of travelling on himself and wear and tear on his equipment. Next season he's added another League I wouldn't be surprised if his average drops. Dont know the reason he was released couldn't have just been his average otherwise we could have kept James Maybe Mark thought he was taking to much on Yes when you compare him to other riders of a similar age his progression has stagnated lately imo, maybe he is spreading himself a bit thin like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 7:32 PM, DBP said: Think all the meetings Tom was doing caught up with him towards the end of last season The amount of travelling on himself and wear and tear on his equipment. Next season he's added another League I wouldn't be surprised if his average drops. Dont know the reason he was released couldn't have just been his average otherwise we could have kept James Maybe Mark thought he was taking to much on Think Tom is a good prospect and has some great meetings but tend to agree his schedule seems quite hectic.Takes its toll unless you have great set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Think Tom is a good prospect and has some great meetings but tend to agree his schedule seems quite hectic.Takes its toll unless you have great set up. Tom, for me, is a rider that will have a career similar to Steve Worrall.. A 3rd HL/Best Second string, depending on the top 3's level based on the team ponts average strength.. A good solid rider rather than a "world beater", (as they tend to be those who can pass opponents often as well as gate), and there is nothing wrong with that... Wish him the best for next season, its been good to watch his progression at the NSS.. Edited November 30, 2023 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Brady Kurtz norick blodorn jaimon lidsey ben cook daniel Bewley Connor mountain connor Bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Be interesting to see how Jimmy does at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 21 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: Brady Kurtz norick blodorn jaimon lidsey ben cook daniel Bewley Connor mountain connor Bailey That’s a weak team imo compared to the other teams I’ve seen built for 2024. Need Dan to be fully committed to the UK this year & big improvements needed from norick who will be in the main team? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said: That’s a weak team imo compared to the other teams I’ve seen built for 2024. Need Dan to be fully committed to the UK this year & big improvements needed from norick who will be in the main team? I’m the total opposite myself. I see a team where all 7 riders could improve and I don’t think no other team could say that. regarding Dan, he’s had his metal work out now. So hopefully see a new Dan next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 7:32 PM, DBP said: Think all the meetings Tom was doing caught up with him towards the end of last season The amount of travelling on himself and wear and tear on his equipment. Next season he's added another League I wouldn't be surprised if his average drops. Dont know the reason he was released couldn't have just been his average otherwise we could have kept James Maybe Mark thought he was taking to much on Not sure but strange that him and Charles Wright released from the club following their spat earlier in the season.just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdonnelly Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: I’m the total opposite myself. I see a team where all 7 riders could improve and I don’t think no other team could say that. regarding Dan, he’s had his metal work out now. So hopefully see a new Dan next season. I hope your right. Norick has been good at reserve but not sure how he'll mix it at no 2. Conor mountain hasn't set the world alight and been knocking around a few years now. I do like Ben cook, Lidsey & Kurtz in the team however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 1:39 PM, Chrisdonnelly said: That’s a weak team imo compared to the other teams I’ve seen built for 2024. Need Dan to be fully committed to the UK this year & big improvements needed from norick who will be in the main team? At first glance, I thought the same, however, Bewley was at least one average point below what should be expected of him as a genuine World Class rider, and Lidsey is one of the most improved riders over the last few years globally, and next year over here I can see him also putting a point on his average... The concern is that the Aces don't seem to have that "fourth heat leader" like they had the last two seasons with Wright at four... They also don't have that reserve/second string rider, and that is important as this rider effectively means the No6 will always be of a high standard when averages change... Blodorn, Wright and Brennan swapped last season.. They look a "top second string" short and a "strong No 6" short too, to compete for the title, for me.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 2:09 PM, Phil The Ace said: I’m the total opposite myself. I see a team where all 7 riders could improve and I don’t think no other team could say that. regarding Dan, he’s had his metal work out now. So hopefully see a new Dan next season. It’s a decent side I don’t think any side can be classed as poor until we see what they go like as a team However my team Ipswich and Belle Vue have replaced 2 riders each from the 1-7 last season Belle Vue replace Wright and Brennan ( who in the league meetings at Foxhall got 15 and 19 between them ) with Cook and Mountain which makes them weaker in my opinion (especially at Foxhall)….. and Ipswich have replaced Riss and Hume with Ellis and Jenkins which in my opinion makes them stronger … so we beat Belle Vue in the play offs last year and this season I would fancy us again I admit obviously each team has strengths at different tracks like Sheffield look strong but the Holders sulk at Foxhall and Tai hasn’t been there for years …. For example Iversen and Musielek will probably outscore the Holder brothers easily at Foxhall Still it’s all about opinions … may the best team win lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Gavan said: It’s a decent side I don’t think any side can be classed as poor until we see what they go like as a team However my team Ipswich and Belle Vue have replaced 2 riders each from the 1-7 last season Belle Vue replace Wright and Brennan ( who in the league meetings at Foxhall got 15 and 19 between them ) with Cook and Mountain which makes them weaker in my opinion (especially at Foxhall)….. and Ipswich have replaced Riss and Hume with Ellis and Jenkins which in my opinion makes them stronger … so we beat Belle Vue in the play offs last year and this season I would fancy us again I admit obviously each team has strengths at different tracks like Sheffield look strong but the Holders sulk at Foxhall and Tai hasn’t been there for years …. For example Iversen and Musielek will probably outscore the Holder brothers easily at Foxhall Still it’s all about opinions … may the best team win lol Can’t disagree with everything you have said there. Your changes are better than ours for sure. we are clearly hoping our top 5 can all improve. Especially Bewley. He’s the key to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Can’t disagree with everything you have said there. Your changes are better than ours for sure. we are clearly hoping our top 5 can all improve. Especially Bewley. He’s the key to me Agreed, but Lidsey also can go onto that "No1" level... As he has shown in the UK, Poland and for Aussie, he has developed into that class of rider just below the very top level.. He does run too many lasts for a 7 point rider though, so by just getting even more thirds he will naturally improve his average in the UK... If he can improve another level this year, then the Aces could have three "No1's"... Which, as they have swapped Wright and Brennan, for Cook and Mountain, you think they would need to have... That alone is a four point reduction, (minimum) per match for me, and you also have to factor in how many % of races they both won, meaning no loss of points to the opposition in those heats.. eg Charles in heat 14 was often a " banker" when they needed him.. Also then you add in Blodorn's scoring at SS v Reserve and there is another possible one to two point drop per match too if he doesnt start to improve his SS scoring.. And, it is also very unlikely the Aces will have a "top reserve" every other month through the season, as averages change, like all the successful teams seem to need... Personally, I would have found a way to keep Wright... His injuries may impact, but for will to win and sheer entertainment at the NSS, not many match him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Could have kept both Wright and Brennan releasing just Blodorn for a slightly weaker number 6. Keeping 6 of last seasons table topping team which would have i.m.o been a stronger team. Edited December 3, 2023 by B.V 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Can’t disagree with everything you have said there. Your changes are better than ours for sure. we are clearly hoping our top 5 can all improve. Especially Bewley. He’s the key to me Ours are better changes no doubt about it, but I wouldn’t read too much in to that in regards to next year. Let’s not forget Belle Vue were comfortably better than Ipswich this year, the table doesn’t lie. Results over a 2 legged semi like we saw can happen in one off (or two off if that’s a saying ) meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 It's a good side but not a special one, It's a bit of a boom or bust situation where BV have got a young side where nobody apart from Mountain has reached their full potential yet therefore everyone has the scope to improve. If they don't improve again in 2024 then this team is bang in trouble, However if they do improve again (I think they will) then the sky is the limit for this young BV side. Bewley will be different gravy next season and he will be back to his old self so that's not a worry, The worry is Blodorn and B. Cook having to ride at 2 or 4 when they have averages that are inflated due to spells at No.6 for their respective clubs in 2023, That's where BV's 2024 fate lies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 11 hours ago, B.V 72 said: Could have kept both Wright and Brennan releasing just Blodorn for a slightly weaker number 6. Keeping 6 of last seasons table topping team which would have i.m.o been a stronger team. Assuming the team is as many predict, signing Jenkins at 6, would have allowed Aces to keep Wright instead of Blodorn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Quoted wrong post. Edited December 3, 2023 by Diamonds85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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