Phil The Ace Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 Are we working on 6 rider teams or 7??? are we having a RS or no RS?? whatever the outcome of the AGM I’m sure we will see these next season and build around them kurtz bewley lidsey ellis blodorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Are we working on 6 rider teams or 7??? are we having a RS or no RS?? whatever the outcome of the AGM I’m sure we will see these next season and build around them kurtz bewley lidsey ellis blodorn Kurtz - 8.51 Bewley - 8.21 (7.79) with reduction Lidsey - 7.86 Ellis - 5.71 (5.42) with reduction Blodorn - 5.83 Total 36.12 (35.41) with reductions Going to be tough year at reserve for you guys if that's the likely top 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Are we working on 6 rider teams or 7??? are we having a RS or no RS?? whatever the outcome of the AGM I’m sure we will see these next season and build around them kurtz bewley lidsey ellis blodorn So Ellis is true then Phil. Edited October 18, 2023 by SUPERACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, StarBoy said: Kurtz - 8.51 Bewley - 8.21 (7.79) with reduction Lidsey - 7.86 Ellis - 5.71 (5.42) with reduction Blodorn - 5.83 Total 36.12 (35.41) with reductions Going to be tough year at reserve for you guys if that's the likely top 5 Not if it's 6 rider team 42 point limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Pity Huckenbeck is in the GP's, would be a decent rider around the NSS... Presume his average now goes up? Or does his old one apply? Adam Ellis is a surprise for me, presume it is more for away tracks? As BF apart not seen him have too many good meetings at the NSS.. Wright missing out would be a shame as always good to watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 7 hours ago, SUPERACE said: So Ellis is true then Phil. I’d say so. It’s a no brainer. He will put 2 points on that average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Pity Huckenbeck is in the GP's, would be a decent rider around the NSS... Presume his average now goes up? Or does his old one apply? Adam Ellis is a surprise for me, presume it is more for away tracks? As BF apart not seen him have too many good meetings at the NSS.. Wright missing out would be a shame as always good to watch... Yes. Huckenbeck would be a great signing and should help blodorn develop also. But now in GPs I can’t see him wanting a Uk return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Pity Huckenbeck is in the GP's, would be a decent rider around the NSS... Presume his average now goes up? Or does his old one apply? Adam Ellis is a surprise for me, presume it is more for away tracks? As BF apart not seen him have too many good meetings at the NSS.. Wright missing out would be a shame as always good to watch... Also it’s hard for any heat leader to come belle Vue and do well against our lot who are dialled in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Rew will be an option for us also I imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: Rew will be an option for us also I imagine I very much doubt it but we’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 I’d definitely be going for Ben Cook, great little rider. Would much prefer him to Rew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Good luck with Ellis, been slow for last 2 seasons, average has gone south since 3/4 of the way through the 2021 season. I heard the other week that Ben Cook was nailed in for an Aces spot in 2024, that would be a good signing as can ride all tracks Edited October 19, 2023 by 4BM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, 4BM said: Good luck with Ellis, been slow for last 2 seasons, average has gone south since 3/4 of the way through the 2021 season. But improved massively on continent so he’s not become a bad rider. there is a rider in there. And I think riding with dan will bring that out of him in Uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Adam’s problem has been that due to being a bit of a gating tart not having speed he just ends up looking lost at the back. Can honestly say I can count on one hand the amount of times he has come from the back home or away in the last few seasons. When he gates he’s usually gone, it really can you afford a rider that goes 3,0,3,0 each meeting. Hope he gets a team spot somewhere as always a shame when a British rider misses out on a UK spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Bradford Ace said: I’d definitely be going for Ben Cook, great little rider. Would much prefer him to Rew There’s two points between them. Rew on a 4.00 would be a far superior signing than Cook on a 6.00. Cook has done very well this year don’t get me wrong, but in the long run Rew is a far bigger talent and will go on to be a much better rider IMO. Why would Ipswich not use Rew though? Sign him on a 5.00, give him a bedding in year to learn the tracks, and then not retain him on a point less? Makes no sense from an Ipswich perspective. Rew has struggled at times hence his average, but has also shown flashes of his undoubted ability. He’ll kick on next year. Edited October 19, 2023 by Aries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Aries said: There’s two points between them. Rew on a 4.00 would be a far superior signing than Cook on a 6.00. Cook has done very well this year don’t get me wrong, but in the long run Rew is a far bigger talent and will go on to be a much better rider IMO. Why would Ipswich not use Rew though? Sign him on a 5.00, give him a bedding in year to learn the tracks, and then not retain him on a point less? Makes no sense from an Ipswich perspective. Rew has struggled at times hence his average, but has also shown flashes of his undoubted ability. He’ll kick on next year. I’m not saying he will be at belle Vue. I’ve heard absolutely nothing about him and belle Vue but I’m sure Lemo. Will try and sign him. But also as hawkins says. They want to keep majority of the team and rew will be part of his plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, 4BM said: Adam’s problem has been that due to being a bit of a gating tart not having speed he just ends up looking lost at the back. Can honestly say I can count on one hand the amount of times he has come from the back home or away in the last few seasons. When he gates he’s usually gone, it really can you afford a rider that goes 3,0,3,0 each meeting. Hope he gets a team spot somewhere as always a shame when a British rider misses out on a UK spot He will get a team spot somewhere in that average for sure. He’s definitely worth the gamble. it’s a big year for Adam over here. He needs to show something. As I said earlier he’s shown very good form in Poland albeit the low league but prices he can win plenty of races. Just need to get him firing over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil The Ace said: I’m not saying he will be at belle Vue. I’ve heard absolutely nothing about him and belle Vue but I’m sure Lemo. Will try and sign him. But also as hawkins says. They want to keep majority of the team and rew will be part of his plans Same thoughts here. Ipswich would be mad to let him go but whenever I've seen him there his style doesn't seem to suit. I think he'd really kick on at Belle Vue, it's helped Lidsey immeasurably this year and why wouldn't the national team manager want to get another youngster kicking on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Aries said: There’s two points between them. Rew on a 4.00 would be a far superior signing than Cook on a 6.00. Cook has done very well this year don’t get me wrong, but in the long run Rew is a far bigger talent and will go on to be a much better rider IMO. Why would Ipswich not use Rew though? Sign him on a 5.00, give him a bedding in year to learn the tracks, and then not retain him on a point less? Makes no sense from an Ipswich perspective. Rew has struggled at times hence his average, but has also shown flashes of his undoubted ability. He’ll kick on next year. If Louis wants him there isn’t a doubt in my mind he’ll be back at Ipswich. He won’t be better off financially anywhere else I know that much. 15 minutes ago, DJC said: Same thoughts here. Ipswich would be mad to let him go but whenever I've seen him there his style doesn't seem to suit. I think he'd really kick on at Belle Vue, it's helped Lidsey immeasurably this year and why wouldn't the national team manager want to get another youngster kicking on? He’s looked comfortable at Foxhall and his best performances have come there as you’d naturally expect being his home track. I do think he’d thrive with the NSS as his home track though. IF he moved there I could easily see him putting two points on his average and being a 6 pointer in his second season here. Hopefully Louis is smart enough not to give a rival that advantage! Edited October 19, 2023 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of clubs Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Personally I don't think we will see Dan or Jaimon at BV or in the UK next year, although I would love to be proved wrong. Adam Ellis is a huge gamble, he seemed slow at times this season, and he gave us the finger last october!. I would be happy with that team nontheless. Edited October 19, 2023 by one of clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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