Poole 2024

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18 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Below the belt and unnecessary  

It's possible to be 'worry about your own team' and comment on others, people are perfectly entitled to comment on any thread or subject they wish. They don't need to be sarcastically called 'experts' either just because they dare criticise your team. 

Just proves that he cant think of a constructive reply to my comments on Thomsen.

[STEVEHOLS54]

On the subject of IF Thomsen did to work out. (Obviously we hope he does).

The fact is as a Dane he will keep his 4 point av, certainly up until the first GSA at least if not longer ??. So we can  replace with a 4, but realistically who would be available who is going to do better.  Arguably no UK rider. Not unless its another teams 4 pointer who has been dropped.

The problem we would now face is that any overseas rider who has ridden (I assume) one or more meetings in DK Prem/Swed/Czech/German/POL Lge of any kind incl Exl/Lge 1 & 2 plus also the POL U24 Lge would be excluded as all would be on a 5. Any half decent young overseas riders have been signed up by POL U24 lge (many on multiple year contracts) as their scouting system seems way ahead of anyone else in the sport. Just Aussie riders as an example proves that with Zischke/West/Rew/Pearson and others means they are 5 pointers as soon as they have ridden in POL. (Unless they rode UK before and got a 4 point or lower av)

Effectively means an untried Aussie mid season or another delve into Dk 2nd Div which is arguably at our NDL or just above as many riders just not good enough for their Prem Lge. The good youngsters like Bastian Pedersen/Mikkel Andersen and others in the 15/16 to 21 age are already signed by POL U24 or Dk Prem.

In effect our team av alternatively would have to fall to 33 to get a 5 pointer. If that happened chances would be we would be out of the BSN & KO Cup come June and maybe some of the below Lge matches lost

Sat 4th May (A) Berwick v Poole
Wed 15th May (H) Poole v Workington
Sat 25th May (A) Plymouth v Poole
Wed 29th May (H) Poole v Berwick

June

Wed 5th June (H) Poole v Redcar

As said hopefully NOT the case. The point being that it would not be an easy problem to rectify if he wasn't to score as we hope.

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13 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

When you consider Poole fans are on every other thread slating teams and the hypocrisy is real!!  
 

They know this is an awful signing so are deflecting!! Even the press release admits hes rubbish but there hoping he might be slightly better than rubbish 

Pirate ship is sinking and they cant take it after being spoilt rotten for many years.

Best for them no to run other clubs signings / teams down if they cant take it when somebody repays the compliment.

[gmarsbar2]

3 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

We have S Lambert as our 4th highest rider & on this last years form, is on par or better than some named above.

Yes, but you don't have a genuine No.1. Tom Brennan & Ben Cook had higher averages in the Premiership this season than Kyle Howarth

[Bagpuss]

22 minutes ago, gmarsbar2 said:

Yes, but you don't have a genuine No.1. Tom Brennan & Ben Cook had higher averages in the Premiership this season than Kyle Howarth

I would suggest Howarth will be come the end of the season, he will be much improved at Scunny after a poor season all round for Plymouth.

[gmarsbar2]

29 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

On the subject of IF Thomsen did to work out. (Obviously we hope he does).

The fact is as a Dane he will keep his 4 point av, certainly up until the first GSA at least if not longer ??. So we can  replace with a 4, but realistically who would be available who is going to do better.  Arguably no UK rider. Not unless its another teams 4 pointer who has been dropped.

The problem we would now face is that any overseas rider who has ridden (I assume) one or more meetings in DK Prem/Swed/Czech/German/POL Lge of any kind incl Exl/Lge 1 & 2 plus also the POL U24 Lge would be excluded as all would be on a 5. Any half decent young overseas riders have been signed up by POL U24 lge (many on multiple year contracts) as their scouting system seems way ahead of anyone else in the sport. Just Aussie riders as an example proves that with Zischke/West/Rew/Pearson and others means they are 5 pointers as soon as they have ridden in POL. (Unless they rode UK before and got a 4 point or lower av)         Stefan Nielsen 3.75, Adam Roynon 3.41 still available

Effectively means an untried Aussie mid season or another delve into Dk 2nd Div which is arguably at our NDL or just above as many riders just not good enough for their Prem Lge. The good youngsters like Bastian Pedersen/Mikkel Andersen and others in the 15/16 to 21 age are already signed by POL U24 or Dk Prem.

In effect our team av alternatively would have to fall to 33 to get a 5 pointer. If that happened chances would be we would be out of the BSN & KO Cup come June and maybe some of the below Lge matches lost

Sat 4th May (A) Berwick v Poole
Wed 15th May (H) Poole v Workington
Sat 25th May (A) Plymouth v Poole
Wed 29th May (H) Poole v Berwick

June

Wed 5th June (H) Poole v Redcar

As said hopefully NOT the case. The point being that it would not be an easy problem to rectify if he wasn't to score as we hope.

See above couple of British riders might be available.

If a young Aussie impresses this winter and gets snapped up for the u24 Ekstraliga then no reason why Poole could change their team for the start of the season and sign him. Polish u24 Ekstraliga  doesn't start until mid April so would be able to start on a 4 before riding in Poland.

Edited December 22, 2023 by gmarsbar2
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[HGould]

TT will certainly have a baptism in BSF Cup

Plymouth statistically considered to have best reserve pairing and solid second strings, Oxford a couple of real chargers at reserve and solid elsewhere. 

Could be out before League starts. 

How about a solid old timer, what's Carl Wilkinson doing, last heard of in that neck of the woods. 

[Arthur54]

31 minutes ago, TTT said:

Pirate ship is sinking and they cant take it after being spoilt rotten for many years.

Best for them no to run other clubs signings / teams down if they cant take it when somebody repays the compliment.

Far from sinking 

[Arthur54]

Looks like the eyes of the speedway world are on Tobias Thomsen in 2024

Edited December 22, 2023 by Arthur54

[SteveLyric2]

1 minute ago, Arthur54 said:

Looks like the eyes of the speedway world are on Tobias Thompson in 2024

Thomsen!

[STEVEHOLS54]

4 minutes ago, gmarsbar2 said:

See above couple of British riders might be available.

If a young Aussie impresses this winter and gets snapped up for the u24 Ekstraliga then no reason why Poole could change their team for the start of the season and sign him. Polish u24 Ekstraliga  doesn't start until mid April so would be able to start on a 4 before riding in Poland.

Neither Nielsen and certainly not Roynon is a forward move. Adam had his chance but was starting to struggle in that last 4/6 weeks prior to injury also on poor equipment.

Also why would Poole change the Dane so early before at least trying to prove he can achieve at least a 4 point av. As for the Aussie's. Most of the decent one's have already signed in POL U24 with odd exception who may not even want to do UK.

[SteveLyric2]

5 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Neither Nielsen and certainly not Roynon is a forward move. Adam had his chance but was starting to struggle in that last 4/6 weeks prior to injury also on poor equipment.

Also why would Poole change the Dane so early before at least trying to prove he can achieve at least a 4 point av. As for the Aussie's. Most of the decent one's have already signed in POL U24 with odd exception who may not even want to do UK.

'Thomsen was one of the top scorers in this season's Danish 2nd Division' is the quote from Danny Ford in the press article.

[Tosh1218]

I’m sure averages are calculated on League matches only so Poole might have a long wait for the new boy to get a proper average

[Pinny]

If Thomsen was signed on a 7 or 9 i would agree however he is on a 4, hardly the end of the world is it? 

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, foreverblue said:

No all Poole fans, I would agree with you, personally prefer to have a youngster with potential, I realise he would be a 5 pointer in this league but a little surprised Rew hasn't got a  Championship spot somewhere.

Now Rew has a 4.00 Prem ave, he'd have a 6.00 converted ave for the Champ.

Edited December 22, 2023 by szkocjasid

[LisaColette]

2 hours ago, therefused said:

he had a chance a few years ago, he was crap then too

5. Bit more than a few! I suppose you are the exactly the same as you were 5 years ago? 

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Pirate ship is sinking and they cant take it after being spoilt rotten for many years.

Best for them no to run other clubs signings / teams down if they cant take it when somebody repays the compliment.

Do you not think you are going OTT TTT??

That is a lot of T's lol

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said:

I’m sure averages are calculated on League matches only so Poole might have a long wait for the new boy to get a proper average

He'd only get a proper average if it goes up, then they'd be happy he's exceeded expectations, otherwise it stays at 4.00.

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Now Rew has a 4.00 Prem ave, he'd have a 6.00 converted ave for the Champ.

Ah yes good point, still be good value on a 6

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2 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Do you not think you are going OTT TTT??

That is a lot of T's lol

No, I'm just speaking the truth.

Watching Championship clubs celebrate titles at Poole last year was painful enough for you guys, Now Poole fans are trying to convince themselves that a pish poor signing in Thomsen is a good move.