szkocjasid Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: There is more to it than averages, the Glasgow reserves have a lot more experience of Championship circuits for example. I take the general point though. Totally agree with that, but think the difference between Poole's and other reserves won't be as big as some are suggesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: No I didnt say that did I. In my opinion Newman and Joe would get more points than Brennan and Perry. So Newman would be instead of Tom then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: Yes I think that would be a more balanced team. Kyle will be a heat leader for Plymouth. Only for Plymouth though. For anyone else he'd be a second string. As much as I like Kyle, he isn't a HL imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Only for Plymouth though. For anyone else he'd be a second string. As much as I like Kyle, he isn't a HL imo. No but not a bad second string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: So Newman would be instead of Tom then. And Joe instead of Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, foreverblue said: And Joe instead of Max As much as I like Kyle, who had a very good season, it has to be Brennan, he is going to get better, i can really see him flourishing at Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Arthur54 said: As much as I like Kyle, who had a very good season, it has to be Brennan, he is going to get better, i can really see him flourishing at Poole Obviously I hope it works out for us. If Max is as good as some seem to think maybe another permutation that could of been considered and maybe was considered is Rowe and Newman instead of Brennan and the rider as yet unannounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 You better hope he is because if he isn’t your reserves will then become an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Obviously I hope it works out for us. If Max is as good as some seem to think maybe another permutation that could of been considered and maybe was considered is Rowe and Newman instead of Brennan and the rider as yet unannounced. Matt and Danny have rarely got it wrong, so when Brennan became available it was a 'no brainer', although Max was always in a reserve spot in any case. Edited December 16, 2023 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Matt and Danny have rarely got it wrong, so when Brennan became available it was a 'no brainer', although Max was always in a reserve spot in any case. I dont think getting Brennan is a no brainer, has been inconsistent at Poole in the past but I realise as a home rider that should change. Some seem to think he is a 9 point rider on 7 point average, do not see him achieving more that 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I dont think getting Brennan is a no brainer, has been inconsistent at Poole in the past but I realise as a home rider that should change. Some seem to think he is a 9 point rider on 7 point average, do not see him achieving more that 8. I know the league has been weakened, but if he achieves an 8 point average, would that not be deemed a success and vindicate the decision anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 7 hours ago, gazzac said: I know the league has been weakened, but if he achieves an 8 point average, would that not be deemed a success and vindicate the decision anyway? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 9 hours ago, gazzac said: I know the league has been weakened, but if he achieves an 8 point average, would that not be deemed a success and vindicate the decision anyway? Not in my opinion, in this weakened league he needs to be over 8, depends how others in the team go whether or not it was a good decision to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanBrannan Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Not in my opinion, in this weakened league he needs to be over 8, depends how others in the team go whether or not it was a good decision to get him. It’s not a weaker league, it’s a more balanced league. Aside Basso, Dougie, Tarasenko etc who were not going to race Championship in any case due to Polish commitments, Im not sure which riders have been lost to the league? It might make teams like Poole weaker as they can’t pack 3 top averaged riders in, it doesn’t make the overall league weaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, IanBrannan said: It’s not a weaker league, it’s a more balanced league. Aside Basso, Dougie, Tarasenko etc who were not going to race Championship in any case due to Polish commitments, Im not sure which riders have been lost to the league? It might make teams like Poole weaker as they can’t pack 3 top averaged riders in, it doesn’t make the overall league weaker. Not sure how an overall points reduction doesnt make it weaker. Having two pointers at reserve is making teams weaker at reserve although some teams havent taken that route. Last season we didnt start with 3 top averaged heat leaders but we all knew Ben was more than capable of the step up to heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Not wanting to take over the Poole thread, but from Glasgow’s perspective, it’s undeniable the 7 riders we will start next season with are clearly weaker than the 7 we started 2023 with, even putting the forced change for Vadim to one side, which did make us stronger. Must be true of others too. Doesn’t mean we won’t get good racing, of course. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, IanBrannan said: It’s not a weaker league, it’s a more balanced league. Aside Basso, Dougie, Tarasenko etc who were not going to race Championship in any case due to Polish commitments, Im not sure which riders have been lost to the league? It might make teams like Poole weaker as they can’t pack 3 top averaged riders in, it doesn’t make the overall league weaker. Can’t agree it’s more balanced league when people like Kyle Newman as an example have been promoted to a third heat leader role when he will come up against the likes of masters, nicholls, cook, wright etc that isn’t balancing the league at all it’s made it weaker as others have said. You’ve dropped the points limit and diluted the league to make the gap between the top two leagues further apart. No disrespect to some of these riders but they are being pushed into heat leader spots because the league has been weakened when in effect they are very good reserves or second strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Riders like masters, lawson etc will eventually get their averages too high and be pushed out the league . Its a slow process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Fail to see all this”knocking” of Brennan,he is still young and a quality rider.There are not many riders on 7+ average whose away average was higher than his home.There are number of riders whose home average is all that makes their average decent.Once he dials in to Poole he will do the job for them IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Fail to see all this”knocking” of Brennan,he is still young and a quality rider.There are not many riders on 7+ average whose away average was higher than his home.There are number of riders whose home average is all that makes their average decent.Once he dials in to Poole he will do the job for them IMO. That’s right ,give him a year and he’ll be on the pace no doubt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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