SteveLyric2 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 3 hours ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Heard a rumour at Oxford last night that Tom Brennan might be Premiership only next season. Yes......and it could be for Poole.........??!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 5 hours ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Heard a rumour at Oxford last night that Tom Brennan might be Premiership only next season. Let's hope Poole move up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 20 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Let's hope Poole move up then No chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 10 hours ago, Skidder1 said: So all the weaker teams- either in performance or financial capacity - will be insisting on 'sharing out all the heat leaders' to 'equalise team strengths' again for 2025. That will probably mean that the Championship will lose some of this season's heat leaders. As I said earlier in the week, we shall lose 2 of our heat leaders in 2025, some due to commitments and plans in other leagues and the ‘level things up front’ for other teams. This years success so far will mean the team will be torn apart and more than recent years where we lost the one heat leader. The points limit will be reduced from 38 i personally think for 2025 due to the lower clubs unable to get decent HL’s. A lot could change between now and the end of the season so let’s see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 14 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: As I said earlier in the week, we shall lose 2 of our heat leaders in 2025, some due to commitments and plans in other leagues and the ‘level things up front’ for other teams. This years success so far will mean the team will be torn apart and more than recent years where we lost the one heat leader. The points limit will be reduced from 38 i personally think for 2025 due to the lower clubs unable to get decent HL’s. A lot could change between now and the end of the season so let’s see. If the points limit goes down, that would be insane. 42 next year would provide parity to this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) 11 hours ago, BackInTheDHSS said: Heard a rumour at Oxford last night that Tom Brennan might be Premiership only next season. Edit - forgot my reply to you lol. Wasn't it said this time last year he wasn't going to do Championship this year? 2 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said: As I said earlier in the week, we shall lose 2 of our heat leaders in 2025, some due to commitments and plans in other leagues and the ‘level things up front’ for other teams. This years success so far will mean the team will be torn apart and more than recent years where we lost the one heat leader. The points limit will be reduced from 38 i personally think for 2025 due to the lower clubs unable to get decent HL’s. A lot could change between now and the end of the season so let’s see. Oh joy. So if points limit goes down potentially have to lose 10 points! So the one HL would be Lawson I'm assuming. Edited August 2 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONTWOMINUTES Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 6 hours ago, lbw said: Richard Lawson & Ben Cook in the Championship Pairs Get their names engraved on the trophy as winners now as it's almost a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 3 hours ago, Noelinho said: If the points limit goes down, that would be insane. 42 next year would provide parity to this year. That would bring it closer to the Prem, whole point is to make the distance between the leagues bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 28 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: That would bring it closer to the Prem, whole point is to make the distance between the leagues bigger. We need to do that by bringing the world class riders back, rather than by diluting the quality of the Championship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 9 hours ago, Noelinho said: We need to do that by bringing the world class riders back, rather than by diluting the quality of the Championship. Except that not all Prem clubs will be able to afford more world class riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 9 hours ago, Noelinho said: We need to do that by bringing the world class riders back, rather than by diluting the quality of the Championship. We will see majority of GP riders back next season. Just because they are GP riders people seem to think they are massively over paid which isn’t the case. They know they can’t earn anywhere near what they get in Poland but Sweden we are around the same for the top riders. People would be surprised what some earn, they still get very good money with a British club over the year but often 3 times that in Poland. The aim is to get more riders into the top flight from abroad or within the UK to help reduce the doubling up between the leagues which has started to work this season and more will follow next year with riders choosing to leave the champ and only ride Prem. Clearly with the 2 teams still not enough riders to go round hence the doubling up but like I say that door is starting to close. Edited August 3 by Pirates Of Poole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said: As I said earlier in the week, we shall lose 2 of our heat leaders in 2025, some due to commitments and plans in other leagues and the ‘level things up front’ for other teams. This years success so far will mean the team will be torn apart and more than recent years where we lost the one heat leader. The points limit will be reduced from 38 i personally think for 2025 due to the lower clubs unable to get decent HL’s. A lot could change between now and the end of the season so let’s see. Clubs didn't get "decent HLs" this year when the limit was 38 so why should it work next year. Teams keep their top men, bring in 2.00 riders and the middle order get squeezed out. If you want a more equitable distribution of Heat Leaders, you need to legislate for it ie only 2 riders with an average of more than 7.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) I thought the idea of introducing the monthly 0.50 increase to team building averages was so that 2025 team building points limit is to be higher than the 2024 38 points!? As for the Prem attracting more 'GP level' riders or indeed anyone from abroad - its not just the rider wages but all the other extra costs to take into account eg. up-front signing on fees, flights, transport, accommodation, mechanics, workshop facilities etc - so its not just about comparing foreign rider wages with UK based riders!! Currently there are 23 'doubling up' riders in the Prem (including Rising Stars) out of 42 riders in 6 teams (Kings Lynn currently have NO Championship riders). So lets see...........! Will Prem go 6-rider teams? Will Prem do away with Rising Stars?etc..... Edited August 3 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Except that not all Prem clubs will be able to afford more world class riders! Perhaps they should join the Championship then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I thought the idea of introducing the monthly 0.50 increase to team building averages was so that 2025 team building points limit is to be higher than the 2024 38 points!? As for the Prem attracting more 'GP level' riders or indeed anyone from abroad - its not just the rider wages but all the other extra costs to take into account eg. up-front signing on fees, flights, transport, accommodation, mechanics, workshop facilities etc - so its not just about comparing foreign rider wages with UK based riders!! Currently there are 23 'doubling up' riders in the Prem (including Rising Stars) out of 42 riders in 6 teams (Kings Lynn currently have NO Championship riders). So lets see...........! Will Prem go 6-rider teams? Will Prem do away with Rising Stars?etc..... Poole are obviously doing that for Tobias this season with flights and accommodation/workshop surely? How is Tom and Ben coming back into the UK from Poland and Tom Sweden too for Poole meetings on a Wednesday? I agree on costs but for example in the Prem - Poole could field 4-5 of this years team all British based and for example the Holder Brothers or Kurtz who are also British based. Edited August 3 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I thought the idea of introducing the monthly 0.50 increase to team building averages was so that 2025 team building points limit is to be higher than the 2024 38 points!? Pretty much irrelevant. The 2025 points limit will be whatever the promoters decide. The monthly increase is to allow some headro9m for in season changes. (In practice it hasn't allowed much. Last month only Glasgow were below and not by much) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 17 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Poole are obviously doing that for Tobias this season with flights and accommodation/workshop surely? How is Tom and Ben coming back into the UK from Poland and Tom Sweden too for Poole meetings on a Tuesday? I agree on costs but for example in the Prem - Poole could field 4-5 of this years team all British based and for example the Holder Brothers or Kurtz who are also British based. 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I thought the idea of introducing the monthly 0.50 increase to team building averages was so that 2025 team building points limit is to be higher than the 2024 38 points!? As for the Prem attracting more 'GP level' riders or indeed anyone from abroad - its not just the rider wages but all the other extra costs to take into account eg. up-front signing on fees, flights, transport, accommodation, mechanics, workshop facilities etc - so its not just about comparing foreign rider wages with UK based riders!! Currently there are 23 'doubling up' riders in the Prem (including Rising Stars) out of 42 riders in 6 teams (Kings Lynn currently have NO Championship riders). So lets see...........! Will Prem go 6-rider teams? Will Prem do away with Rising Stars?etc..... Nothing to do with 2025. 2024 averages will centre around 42 by the end of the season , something the 0.5 addition recognises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 NDL Series Leicester Vinnie Foord 3rd 13pts after run off (2 3 3 3 2). Solid scoring all the way through but Springer clattered into him on bend 4 taking both into the air fence. Both got up and walked away. On the presentation Vinnie reported that he was in a lot of pain with his right shoulder, looked like he had an ice pack on it. I presume this injury is from Redcar?? Sam Hagon 4th 11pts (3 3 3 EX 2) Was looking good to winning the meeting until he missed the gate in the crucial heat 15 against the other unbeaten rider Joe Thompson. As Sam tried to make up the lost ground he clipped Spencer on the back straight which sent Spencer sprawling down the track. Spencer was up and ok but Sam excluded. Meeting won by Joe Thompson 15 max and 2nd William Cairns. Yes the Championship clubs will be queuing up to sign Cairns but he doesn't turn 16 till July I think next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 Hearing Vinnie Foord could be out for quite some time as he has to have an operation after his crash at Leicester. Get well soon Vinnie. Hope it’s not the end of your season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 20 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Hearing Vinnie Foord could be out for quite some time as he has to have an operation after his crash at Leicester. Get well soon Vinnie. Hope it’s not the end of your season. Celina is available on 4.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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