Poole 2024

[Toady]

2 hours ago, Endeavour said:

One of the best riders at Armadale this season. Great team man loses his team position because of a stupid points limit that no fan is in favour of.

Out of interest, what system would you use for team building ?

 

[Fromafar]

7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Rumoured to be a Poole target, Tom Brennan signs for Swedish league Indianerna!

With this stupid watering down and lowering averages 6.58- 8.00 men will be looking elsewhere abroad.It’s ludicrous.9-10 Team Championship means not much  room for riders with that average.

[HGould]

6 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Interesting comments on both main POL Speedway websites today.

Seems from next season in all 3 POL Leagues the 2 reserve positions have to be filled by POL Juniors only and not foreign riders.

Believe there was flexibility on this in at least Lge 2 in previous seasons which meant top teams like Leszno could loan their young Aussies/Danes to get experience at reserve. Seems that window has closed.

Could that maybe sway some young Aussies to consider UK more if they cannot double up U24 POL Lge with another POL LGE ??. The Aussies also cannot ride in the POL jnr League as all riders have to be POL.

Assume they could be nominated into a main team in LGE 1/2 but that would pitch these youngsters against much more experienced rivals. I'm sure most won't want to risk throwing riders of this grade into main slots so early.

Was thinking about the likes of Zischke/West/Bowes/Cluff/Brown who all rode POL U24 last season.

Well done Poland. 

What a shame we can't do exactly the same and boost our young talent. 

Frankly would any on that list enhance British Speedway to the detriment of Pijper, Perry, Boughen, James, Harrison etc. 

[Fromafar]

9 minutes ago, HGould said:

Well done Poland. 

What a shame we can't do exactly the same and boost our young talent. 

Frankly would any on that list enhance British Speedway to the detriment of Pijper, Perry, Boughen, James, Harrison etc. 

Poland are looking after the own talent,it going to be a tough gig for mediocre young Brits( and we have a few) compared to other  Foreign Countries.It’s been coming for years IMO.

 

[Endeavour]

2 hours ago, Toady said:

Out of interest, what system would you use for team building ?

 

Think you I would go with 2 solid heat leaders. 2 second strings and three , the 2 pointer and try identify young riders for the final 2 spaces who could put  a good couple of points on average. Easier said than done.

[Diamonds85]

Speedway fans like to complain about losing riders due to limitation in team building but it's not the only sport it happens in... The salary cap in the NHL means that teams have to move on from big players all the time, buy them out, ship them off to other teams around the league, asset management and keeping the players that's best for the club is all part and parcel of the sport, it's the same with speedway. I would rather there be some sort of team building system in place and have the teams SOMEWHAT level with eachother as opposed to Poole, Glasgow and Oxford signing all the big names and letting the smaller teams scrape up what's left at the bottom of the barrel. Aye the team building isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing...

[STEVEHOLS54]

16 hours ago, HGould said:

Well done Poland. 

What a shame we can't do exactly the same and boost our young talent. 

Frankly would any on that list enhance British Speedway to the detriment of Pijper, Perry, Boughen, James, Harrison etc. 

Only one who I think at this stage could become a big name is Tate Zischke. Just my opinion, but I take your point.

[STEVEHOLS54]

Thanks Skidder _ Just saw same on POL Speedway News site.

Could this put into question whether Brennan is signing for Poole after the rumours on the Poole 2024 forum ??.

This could mean a schedule of:

Mon - Prem

Tue- Swe

Wed - Poole (or another Champ Club)

Thur - Prem

Fri - one of the Champ meetings

Sat - As Friday

Sun - POL

I thought one of the reason the likes of Douglas and Pickering   want to give up Champ was to concentrate on POL (Sundays and odd Saturdays),  was also to take part in the Saturday Polish training sessions.Not sure on that last point but I'm sure I read Douglas mention that in an interview.

[LisaColette]

6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Thanks Skidder _ Just saw same on POL Speedway News site.

Could this put into question whether Brennan is signing for Poole after the rumours on the Poole 2024 forum ??.

This could mean a schedule of:

Mon - Prem

Tue- Swe

Wed - Poole (or another Champ Club)

Thur - Prem

Fri - one of the Champ meetings

Sat - As Friday

Sun - POL

I thought one of the reason the likes of Douglas and Pickering   want to give up Champ was to concentrate on POL (Sundays and odd Saturdays),  was also to take part in the Saturday Polish training sessions.Not sure on that last point but I'm sure I read Douglas mention that in an interview.

Brennan is in as the U24 rider in Poland? Sure that is what he said on his twitter. So not sure if that means he needs to be there practicing as much as someone like Dougie? 

Also Poole wouldn't sign him if there are lots of fixture clashes imo. 

https://x.com/TomBrennan27/status/1713860316306579841?s=20

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by lisa-colette

[SteveLyric2]

37 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Thanks Skidder _ Just saw same on POL Speedway News site.

Could this put into question whether Brennan is signing for Poole after the rumours on the Poole 2024 forum ??.

This could mean a schedule of:

Mon - Prem

Tue- Swe

Wed - Poole (or another Champ Club)

Thur - Prem

Fri - one of the Champ meetings

Sat - As Friday

Sun - POL

I thought one of the reason the likes of Douglas and Pickering   want to give up Champ was to concentrate on POL (Sundays and odd Saturdays),  was also to take part in the Saturday Polish training sessions.Not sure on that last point but I'm sure I read Douglas mention that in an interview.

Pickering has already said he has to rethink his options for 2024!!

[Jaizer]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Pickering has already said he has to rethink his options for 2024!!

Because he's no offers in Poland. Tom maybe has one. Imo he's be better concentrating on UK and Sweden then if he's good enough Poland. He's been great for us in 2.5 years but the facts are his form only really improved when rode with bomber at no.2. Dougie, basso and Pickering are at least genuine champ HLs

Edited November 2, 2023 by Jaizer
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[Fromafar]

11 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Because he's no offers in Poland. Tom maybe has one. Imo he's be better concentrating on UK and Sweden then if he's good enough Poland. He's been great for us in 2.5 years but the facts are his form only really improved when rode with bomber at no.2. Dougie, basso and Pickering are at least genuine champ HLs

Tom has a Polish contract for next season.

[Fromafar]

14 hours ago, Diamonds85 said:

Speedway fans like to complain about losing riders due to limitation in team building but it's not the only sport it happens in... The salary cap in the NHL means that teams have to move on from big players all the time, buy them out, ship them off to other teams around the league, asset management and keeping the players that's best for the club is all part and parcel of the sport, it's the same with speedway. I would rather there be some sort of team building system in place and have the teams SOMEWHAT level with eachother as opposed to Poole, Glasgow and Oxford signing all the big names and letting the smaller teams scrape up what's left at the bottom of the barrel. Aye the team building isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing...

It’s the watering down of the Sport that most are complaining about.Riders are being force out because of it.In other sports it’s a levelling up process.

[ragdoll64]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

It’s the watering down of the Sport that most are complaining about.Riders are being force out because of it.In other sports it’s a levelling up process.

Agree Fromafar……..it’s the lowering of the points limit that’s the problem not the fact that there IS a limit. 

[STEVEHOLS54]

3 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Brennan is in as the U24 rider in Poland? Sure that is what he said on his twitter. So not sure if that means he needs to be there practicing as much as someone like Dougie? 

Also Poole wouldn't sign him if there are lots of fixture clashes imo. 

https://x.com/TomBrennan27/status/1713860316306579841?s=20

 

I need to follow more of the British riders on X  .

I was looking at the 2023 line up's where he rode for Lodz in Lge 1. I wrongly thought the Poles had started listing the 2024 line up's so my bad . Even though apparently most squads are already complete and the one month transfer window only opened on 1st Nov.

A Tuesday will tie in on the U24 quite nicely with Poole then as Zach Cook managed both ok.

But hang on. Isn't the POL U24 on a Tuesday which is the same night  as Sweden ?? where he has signed for Indianera. That news was only released on 1st Nov (yesterday) which was 2 weeks after his X announcement about the POL U24 signing.

[MB723]

Think Tom will be Gdansk's U24 rider in Liga 1 not riding in the U24 league

[Fromafar]

16 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I need to follow more of the British riders on X  .

I was looking at the 2023 line up's where he rode for Lodz in Lge 1. I wrongly thought the Poles had started listing the 2024 line up's so my bad . Even though apparently most squads are already complete and the one month transfer window only opened on 1st Nov.

A Tuesday will tie in on the U24 quite nicely with Poole then as Zach Cook managed both ok.

But hang on. Isn't the POL U24 on a Tuesday which is the same night  as Sweden ?? where he has signed for Indianera. That news was only released on 1st Nov (yesterday) which was 2 weeks after his X announcement about the POL U24 signing.

Polishing/24 was aTuesday last season,so unless it’s changed.

[SteveLyric2]

Are all Polish U.24 riders classed as 'seniors' in the main squad?

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Are all Polish U.24 riders classed as 'seniors' in the main squad?

You have to have an u24 rider in your 1-5, that can be foreign or polish

[Bandit59]

4 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Tom has a Polish contract for next season.

And Sweden