SteveLyric2 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, Marksman said: I think it was £16 in 2018 last time we were at this level. £20 will be reasonable imo, although I can only imagine what some people will say when it’s announced it’s £20. But even non-league National League football is £20 to get in these days. Unfortunately some casual fans won’t realise the actual costs to put a meeting on. Many regular fans don't realise the actual costs to put a meeting on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: Surely you just put a geographical restriction on buying the stream. Home fans go to the meeting but away ones can stream it. I think Edinburgh have something like Geographical restriction set up, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that if an Edinburgh supporter couldn't attend due to illness, that if they contacted EMTV that they could bypass the restriction to allow them to buy the stream. Apologies if the last bit is my brain playing tricks on me. I streamed pretty much every Oxford away meeting that was available, that wasn't on the very wonderful BSN, I'm sure plenty of fans of any club also did. Good little moneyspinner for the clubs once they've gained back the initial expense of buying equipment and setting everything into place. I support Berwick but live 65mls away though.Edinburgh had a 30 ml radius at one time don’t know if that still applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Many regular fans don't realise the actual costs to put a meeting on! Many fans think some riders are overpaid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Many Pensioners at Worky though! But they are getting a large % pay rise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 12:43 PM, Lefty said: Is Friday night a protected CL night for Lincolnshire teams only? Yet another Bell En* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 5:30 PM, Skidder1 said: Many regular fans don't realise the actual costs to put a meeting on! Well, it's obviously less than they get back in!!!,,, otherwise they wouldn't even bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 5:30 PM, Skidder1 said: Many regular fans don't realise the actual costs to put a meeting on! No, but many people realise that what they are getting is very often nowhere near the value of what they are paying. This is something that those running our great sport keep ignoring. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: No, but many people realise that what they are getting is very often nowhere near the value of what they are paying. This is something that those running our great sport keep ignoring. Indeed, but is that the promoters or the riders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, StevePark said: Indeed, but is that the promoters or the riders? I think it would be fair to say that the riders have far too much influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think it would be fair to say that the riders have far too much influence. If promoters are stupid enough to over pay, why is that the riders fault? Because as a group the promoters have as much integrity as a spam sandwich. Back in 2013 I think it was, The 2nd division all agreed a £55 a point pay cap across the board at the agm. Within an hour I knew one rider who was being paid £75 a point (£20 a point cash) No one is forcing the promotion to sign them and pay what they ask for, the promotions aren't strong enough to act together. Blaming the riders is like blaming a work colleague for not agreeing to do his job for half the money for the benefit of his boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Craig Cook been practicing at Workington today it’s on his social media with the caption “ I'm not done yet “ could there be an emotional return to Cumbria as there number 1 next season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, bloom89 said: Craig Cook been practicing at Workington today it’s on his social media with the caption “ I'm not done yet “ could there be an emotional return to Cumbria as there number 1 next season? Wish Craig all the best wherever he goes. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Good to see 2morrows end of season presentation and party nite is sold out, more fundraising for the club, will we hear some news about next season on the nite ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, Neila said: Good to see 2morrows end of season presentation and party nite is sold out, more fundraising for the club, will we hear some news about next season on the nite ?? Need a full debrief off you Neila if there is as I can’t attend haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, CTD26 said: Need a full debrief off you Neila if there is as I can’t attend haha Might be a secret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 5:30 PM, Skidder1 said: Many regular fans don't realise the actual costs to put a meeting on! Tbh, I don't think that's relevant. Fans need to decide if they think the price is value for money. If they don't think it is & stop attending, it won't matter if the promotion knows more than the fans i.e how much it costs to put meetings on. I'll use Justin Sedgmen as an example, I've seen interviews, where he explains how expensive Speedway is, with tuning, travel expenses etc as a reason for riders deserving more money. But that's not how a business works - a promotion can only pay out, what comes in (unless they are willing to lose money). If clubs only get 500 attending matches, the riders wages should be based on this income (plus sponsorship), riders can't just demand more money to pay for the very best equipment! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Quite a lot of riders have good sponsors large and small all add up, these are used to cover machinery costs, travel money is paid by the promotion home and away, so points money is the riders pay, if you are the better rider scoring 8 - 10 points they could have a pay packet well of over £1000 a meeting, twice a week 25 meetings is 25k or more in just over 6 months, I have to work 40 hours a week 52 weeks a year for that figure. Yes the young riders have to start at the bottom on less money, but how many are full time speedway riders ?? Not having a go at the riders, it's a dangerous sport but they have to be reasonable when talking to clubs, just because this is in the comets section it applies to all speedway clubs. Thoughts anyone ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Tbh, I don't think that's relevant. Fans need to decide if they think the price is value for money. If they don't think it is & stop attending, it won't matter if the promotion knows more than the fans i.e how much it costs to put meetings on. I'll use Justin Sedgmen as an example, I've seen interviews, where he explains how expensive Speedway is, with tuning, travel expenses etc as a reason for riders deserving more money. But that's not how a business works - a promotion can only pay out, what comes in (unless they are willing to lose money). If clubs only get 500 attending matches, the riders wages should be based on this income (plus sponsorship), riders can't just demand more money to pay for the very best equipment! Riders can "demand" what they want, but the promoters don't have to pay it, if they feel that the "demand" is excessive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 hours ago, StevePark said: Riders can "demand" what they want, but the promoters don't have to pay it, if they feel that the "demand" is excessive. This 100% Blaming the riders for asking for too much and then being paid it, is like blaming McDonald's for why you are fat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Neila said: Might be a secret Now that would be a shame haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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