topaz325 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 Should there be a rule on the number of Premiership riders in a Championship side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 20 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: While McGurk, Hodder, Perry & James have struggled this year there doesn't seem to be a great amount of replacements out there for them. Weakening the NL won't make next season any better. I honestly think they need to use the Prem's rules of weakest rider at 7 / can't get replaced in heat 8. At least that was these 2.00 riders will race each other twice a match. Watering down the League is the biggest problem.These riders are not really Championship standard other than racing each other. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Should there be a rule on the number of Premiership riders in a Championship side. No, I dont think so, it would just weaken the product further and deprive fans of watching better quality riders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: No, I dont think so, it would just weaken the product further and deprive fans of watching better quality riders. had a quick look 22 riders double -up another 27 don't ride in the Chamionship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Totally agree with that, basically they dropped Klindt for Riss because they wanted to use Nicholls as a guest for Kerr. The BSPL / SCB should have said no to dropping Klindt when Kerr was injured. Riss could've replaced Kerr, then when Kerr was fit he could replace Klindt = no guests needed. 1 hour ago, DJC said: what @szkocjasid said! Not having a full 7 when they have the chance is ridiculous While I do get what you're saying, and it's a good idea to stop it happening long term..... Oxford literally only used a guest in one match, no? A guest for Kerr at home against King's Lynn and then Cook was in for the Sheffield fixture. If they did all of this just to use Nicholls in one match out of a 24-match long season, it's a bit short sighted from the promotion. I wouldn't put anything past Peter Shroeck, but surely even he's not capable of being that incompetent. Edited July 29 by BackInTheDHSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwaySlider72 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 From the good old rule book... 010.3.1 Transfer Window No team changes will be allowed once that team has completed 75% of their fixtures in the following competitions: - Premiership League Championship League & BSN Series combined Except riders returning to the team after injury who can only replace their original replacement. This season there are 16 Championship fixtures and 4 BSN Series fixtures for each team. Looks like Workington raced their 15th (75%) fixture on Saturday so can they make this change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SpeedwaySlider72 said: From the good old rule book... 010.3.1 Transfer Window No team changes will be allowed once that team has completed 75% of their fixtures in the following competitions: - Premiership League Championship League & BSN Series combined Except riders returning to the team after injury who can only replace their original replacement. This season there are 16 Championship fixtures and 4 BSN Series fixtures for each team. Looks like Workington raced their 15th (75%) fixture on Saturday so can they make this change? Workington have 6 BSN fixtures, so 75% of 22 = 16.5. Could even have 8 BSN fixtures. Edited July 29 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 22 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Workington have 6 BSN fixtures, so 75% of 22 = 16.5. Could even have 8 BSN fixtures. It refers to the Championship League which is 16 meetings - 8 each home and away and BSN Series which was 2 home and 2 away so a total of 16. It doesn’t mention the play offs so the total for each team is 20, 75% of which is 15. There is a 3 day rule for team changes so BSPL needed to have been informed on Friday for the announcement to have been made today. As of Friday, Workington had raced 10 league and 4 BSN meetings so under 75%. The change was also advised to BSPL before Celina won heat 14 on Saturday.Was that coincidental or a deliberate FU moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 39 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Workington have 6 BSN fixtures, so 75% of 22 = 16.5. Could even have 8 BSN fixtures. I agree with this. The rulebook doesn’t say semi final for BSN Series doesn’t count, and since they’ve made it that far, they should be able to claim them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 So potentially a team could have one or two premiership riders or seven premiership riders . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 21 minutes ago, topaz325 said: So potentially a team could have one or two premiership riders or seven premiership riders . It could potentionaly have any number. For instance, Berwick have no Premiership riders in their 1-7.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Wee Eck said: It refers to the Championship League which is 16 meetings - 8 each home and away and BSN Series which was 2 home and 2 away so a total of 16. It doesn’t mention the play offs so the total for each team is 20, 75% of which is 15. There is a 3 day rule for team changes so BSPL needed to have been informed on Friday for the announcement to have been made today. As of Friday, Workington had raced 10 league and 4 BSN meetings so under 75%. The change was also advised to BSPL before Celina won heat 14 on Saturday.Was that coincidental or a deliberate FU moment? There are 4 days till fri or 5 if u count sunday so plenty of time,how many matches do u meed to ride to become an asset?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, geoff100 said: There are 4 days till fri or 5 if u count sunday so plenty of time,how many matches do u meed to ride to become an asset?? Workington reached 15 meetings - league and BSN series - last Saturday so had until then to advise BSPL of the change. Once the meeting vs Poole was finishrd, Workington hit the “no team changes after 75% of their matches” threshold. On the second point, I’ve no idea. It keeps changing! It was 6 home and 6 away at one point but I’m sure that changed. Perhaps Crescent Girl knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 You could tell by the way Ceiliana rode at Scunthorpe on Friday that she had been told that she was getting released , the publicity she got earlier in the season helped Workington crowds but now she had to be in the side on merit sadly she wasn’t upto her average so time for a change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 9 hours ago, Wee Eck said: I’d missed that about Manzares and could see the merit in replacing Celina with him rather than him replacing Tate, assuming he comes in on a 4. But Manzares has been unsuccessfully angling for a UK team place for a couple of years now, and you have to wonder why no one has taken him up if rumour i heard is right gino wants a lot to ride workshop and house aswell as other demands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 Gino was a liability riding for us and his head was not always in the right place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljriley90 Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, scaramanga said: if rumour i heard is right gino wants a lot to ride workshop and house aswell as other demands Well he needs a base to be fair. Hardly going to jet over each home match! If not riding on the continent this becomes a problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 Gino is/was riding in Sweden, also think he will need a visa to ride in the uk and if like the aussies will have had to finish in the top 3/5 of the national championships. Which I don't think gino has done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Neila said: Gino is/was riding in Sweden, also think he will need a visa to ride in the uk and if like the aussies will have had to finish in the top 3/5 of the national championships. Which I don't think gino has done I believe an International Sportsperson Visa has replaced the old Tier 3 or Tier 5 visa. Supposedly with the correct docs you can get one in 3 weeks or 5 days if you pay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 8 hours ago, Wee Eck said: It refers to the Championship League which is 16 meetings - 8 each home and away and BSN Series which was 2 home and 2 away so a total of 16. It doesn’t mention the play offs so the total for each team is 20, 75% of which is 15. There is a 3 day rule for team changes so BSPL needed to have been informed on Friday for the announcement to have been made today. As of Friday, Workington had raced 10 league and 4 BSN meetings so under 75%. The change was also advised to BSPL before Celina won heat 14 on Saturday. Was that coincidental or a deliberate FU moment? The rules say BSN series, it doesn't say BSN series group stages, so maybe they do count the Semis & finals of that competition? I think Celina won the last heat because she made the gate, she probably would have won a race in every match of she could make the gate consistently,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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