scaramanga Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 Starke was good when booked as guest but other visits not so good As for any replacing celina Yes on paper should improve but not sure they would be much better from this year's visits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woke23 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 9 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Starke & Pijper released by Glasgow. Possible replacements for Leibmann? Both would come in and do better than celina and Sam. I like sam a lot but it's clear that he is, or atleast should be, on borrowed time. Celina is ok at home but she's absolutely woeful away. Unfortunately her spot is safe and we all know why. There's now a few possible reserve replacements out there who would do better. Pijper, perry, starke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Woke23 said: Both would come in and do better than celina and Sam. I like sam a lot but it's clear that he is, or atleast should be, on borrowed time. Celina is ok at home but she's absolutely woeful away. Unfortunately her spot is safe and we all know why. There's now a few possible reserve replacements out there who would do better. Pijper, perry, starke. Have seen celina away now 3 times to say she is voeful is way off the mark,she needs to gate better but she never gives up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Woke23 said: Both would come in and do better than celina and Sam. I like sam a lot but it's clear that he is, or at least should be, on borrowed time. Celina is ok at home but she's absolutely woeful away. Unfortunately her spot is safe and we all know why. There's now a few possible reserve replacements out there who would do better. Pijper, perry, starke. Neither Starke or Pijper could replace McGurk. Unless it was Jody Scott, I think I'd stick with Sam, don't see Perry scoring much more than him. But Workington could really do with his reserve partner scoring more. Edited July 9 by szkocjasid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Neither Starke or Pijper could replace McGurk. Unless it was Jody Scott, I think I'd stick with Sam, don't see Perry scoring much more than him. But Workington could really do with his reserve partner scoring more. Perry wouldn't score any I really don't see why ppl keep mentioning him as a replacement for any 2 pointer. Edited July 10 by mc131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 50 minutes ago, mc131 said: Perry wouldn't score any I really don't see why ppl keep mentioning him as a replacement for any 2 pointer. I guess some people think of a riders is not doing well, they have to replace them, I'd say they should try to improve on them if they can. That's almost like what Oxford did, replaced Kerr because he wasn't going well, despite the fact they didn't have a stronger replacement limed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 7 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I guess some people think of a riders is not doing well, they have to replace them, I'd say they should try to improve on them if they can. That's almost like what Oxford did, replaced Kerr because he wasn't going well, despite the fact they didn't have a stronger replacement limed up. Agree on improving if and when possible but Perry isn't an improvement on any of the 2 pointers imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) Update from Tate on Facebook. Update After a tough first week I am doing a lot better now. I have been up on my feet doing a little bit of walking. The doctors are very happy with my progress and I hope to be out of hospital by the end of this week. Also another injury added to the list I have torn my Gracilis mussel off my pelvis but they have said it won't need surgery and should heal on its own and be back to normal in a few months. Obviously still in quite a bit of pain but feel like I’m getting stronger every day. When I am released from hospital I will need to come in every 2 days until the doctors are confident we can clean and change the dressings ourselves. Then we come back for the 6 week check up. Hopefully by then I will get the all clear and I will be able to sit on my ass for the 20+ hour flight back home to Australia. Thank you to everyone for your messages and thanks again for those who have come up to visit me. Getting the news there is going to be NO long term damage is a relief … bring on next season. Doctors report 6,7,8,9 left lateral rib fracture - will heal by themselves Fractures of the spine T5 T6 T7 T8 T9 bottom of the rib cage -they are compressed however the ribs will brace them and hold them in place so they would expect they will heal perfectly fine L2 L3 L4 lumber part of the spine wings on the side are broken off - will heal by themselves with time No damage to the spinal cord thankfully Where the Chain adjuster went into his left cheek ( buttocks) -Doctors said you actually got quite lucky it only went through the subcontainious tissues without involving the muscles. The exit wound has been stitched shut The main concern is making sure the large entry wound doesn't get infected as it heals. This will take the longest to heal as we would like it to heal on its own. The latest MR scan of the pelvis showed up a couple of aductor muscles have been torn at the pelvis they are the muscles that bring your legs together these are subtotal (like a very nasty sprain) and they will heal up in time The worrying one or most damage was done to the Gricillus muscle It is torn through and through and totally torn off of the pelvis the TNO surgeon said they won’t operate at this point. They may want to go in and rejoin it but he thinks it’s highly unlikely Edited July 10 by screm 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 33 minutes ago, screm said: Update from Tate on Facebook. Update After a tough first week I am doing a lot better now. I have been up on my feet doing a little bit of walking. The doctors are very happy with my progress and I hope to be out of hospital by the end of this week. Also another injury added to the list I have torn my Gracilis mussel off my pelvis but they have said it won't need surgery and should heal on its own and be back to normal in a few months. Obviously still in quite a bit of pain but feel like I’m getting stronger every day. When I am released from hospital I will need to come in every 2 days until the doctors are confident we can clean and change the dressings ourselves. Then we come back for the 6 week check up. Hopefully by then I will get the all clear and I will be able to sit on my ass for the 20+ hour flight back home to Australia. Thank you to everyone for your messages and thanks again for those who have come up to visit me. Getting the news there is going to be NO long term damage is a relief … bring on next season. Doctors report 6,7,8,9 left lateral rib fracture - will heal by themselves Fractures of the spine T5 T6 T7 T8 T9 bottom of the rib cage -they are compressed however the ribs will brace them and hold them in place so they would expect they will heal perfectly fine L2 L3 L4 lumber part of the spine wings on the side are broken off - will heal by themselves with time No damage to the spinal cord thankfully Where the Chain adjuster went into his left cheek ( buttocks) -Doctors said you actually got quite lucky it only went through the subcontainious tissues without involving the muscles. The exit wound has been stitched shut The main concern is making sure the large entry wound doesn't get infected as it heals. This will take the longest to heal as we would like it to heal on its own. The latest MR scan of the pelvis showed up a couple of aductor muscles have been torn at the pelvis they are the muscles that bring your legs together these are subtotal (like a very nasty sprain) and they will heal up in time The worrying one or most damage was done to the Gricillus muscle It is torn through and through and totally torn off of the pelvis the TNO surgeon said they won’t operate at this point. They may want to go in and rejoin it but he thinks it’s highly unlikely Sounds positive news regarding injury healing process sounds horrendous but wish him a speedy recovery and a return to racing.He is a real talent and seems a pleasant guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) I’m glad to read that Tate is slowly on the mend to talk about next season just goes to show the mental strength of the fella,and it goes to show what great things the Ben fund does for riders.lets just hope that Workington do not get biblical rain (hmm) like. What happened last Saturday which caused the Plymouth match to be off because it’s a great cause. Edited July 10 by Mike0310 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 36 minutes ago, Mike0310 said: I’m glad to read that Tate is slowly on the mend to talk about next season just goes to show the mental strength of the fella,and it goes to show what great things the Ben fund does for riders.lets just hope that Workington do not get biblical rain (hmm) like. What happened last Saturday which caused the Plymouth match to be off because it’s a great cause. Vissing isn't riding in ben fund,he's still on holiday so will definitely be on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Plymouth chuckle brothers have nowt else to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 8 minutes ago, Neila said: Plymouth chuckle brothers have nowt else to do Says Billy bunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersteady84 Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 10 hours ago, lewy said: Vissing isn't riding in ben fund,he's still on holiday so will definitely be on Nearly a whole week and still not found you're dummy? Hahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersteady84 Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 10 hours ago, lewy said: Vissing isn't riding in ben fund,he's still on holiday so will definitely be on Lewy aka wayne lewis the guy who transports the Plymouth fans about!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 The injuries listed for tate should be a good reason for all to attend ben fund Saturday 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 18 minutes ago, scaramanga said: The injuries listed for tate should be a good reason for all to attend ben fund Saturday Might be better if they came on Sunday......... But yes, a vital need for funding in the sport, assisting fallen riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 24 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Might be better if they came on Sunday......... But yes, a vital need for funding in the sport, assisting fallen riders. You could be right Old age don't allow for day change too easy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 9 hours ago, scaramanga said: The injuries listed for tate should be a good reason for all to attend ben fund Saturday Ben Fund SUNDAY . YOU will be the only one on Saturday that turns up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 13 hours ago, Supersteady84 said: Lewy aka wayne lewis the guy who transports the Plymouth fans about!! Lord cleeve thinks it's funny at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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