Neila Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, j2ohh said: so i take it worky gets all the takings from all the food outlets/chippy/drink/ice cream , even though it looks like these are run by other non worky people ! Plans going forward for bar and food in 2 newly installed portacabins on middle of bend 1 + 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 I think Workington will be fine , follow Scunthorpe & Redcars blue print of most things in-house and ice cream van etc pay to enter the stadium ,raffle tickets etc .What you need is a hard working band of helpers and your halfway there 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Surely there's insurance, medical costs, referees, tyres, travel, upkeep, and whole lot of etc costs to be considered, before you start talking about bums on seats to cover wages. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Regarding food while it’s easy money to let it out.With a little organisation its’very healthy profit to do it In-house .IMO.Initial outlay might be the problem if it was short Term but they have a21 year lease. To be fair, they’ve come a long way quickly. I’m sure it’s just a matter of priorities and how quickly they can get to all of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 37 minutes ago, Noelinho said: To be fair, they’ve come a long way quickly. I’m sure it’s just a matter of priorities and how quickly they can get to all of them. Agree 100% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 a few practice amature meeting a month will put a few coffers into the kitty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 13 hours ago, magnus said: Surely there's insurance, medical costs, referees, tyres, travel, upkeep, and whole lot of etc costs to be considered, before you start talking about bums on seats to cover wages. Whole host of unforeseen costs as you have covered as well as bonus points needing to be paid. £100 apoint would be reasonable if riders supplied thier own tyres and operated on reduced travel costs. Scoring points should be incentivised more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Whole host of unforeseen costs as you have covered as well as bonus points needing to be paid. £100 apoint would be reasonable if riders supplied thier own tyres and operated on reduced travel costs. Scoring points should be incentivised more. dont think the riders can bring tyres with them , its wide open to iffy goings on .but they can use fuel from home ! Edited January 24 by j2ohh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, j2ohh said: dont think the riders can bring tyres with them , its wide open to iffy goings on .but they can use fuel from home ! I am sure new tyres are supplied "in house" & only the spare is the riders As regards the fuel, I think this is also supplied by the home track as to minimise "dodgy" additives used. In the past, additives(nitro) was fed through tubes in the frame & also additives could already be in the containers the riders use. A track examiner can not see every thing that goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: I am sure new tyres are supplied "in house" & only the spare is the riders As regards the fuel, I think this is also supplied by the home track as to minimise "dodgy" additives used. In the past, additives(nitro) was fed through tubes in the frame & also additives could already be in the containers the riders use. A track examiner can not see every thing that goes on. The spare tyre is one previously issued and marked and inspected by the machine examiner and it Must be used. Fuel is not supplied to the riders you have to buy your own Edited January 24 by phillwhitewasmad 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/23/2024 at 10:02 PM, Joseq7 said: Agreed. Surely there can't be too many riders in the Championship on >=£100 a point? I know that rider overheads and running costs are crazy but even so. Stonehewer back in early 2000s was rumoured to be on around that figure so given that was 20 years ago, it wouldn't seem unlikely to be the case now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 18 hours ago, j2ohh said: dont think the riders can bring tyres with them , its wide open to iffy goings on .but they can use fuel from home ! Rules change every 5 minutes but there was nothing to stop riders fitting a tyre at home (same manufacturer etc) getting it marked then taking the new tyre from the meeting and repeating the process. Most do fit tyres at track but not all like to scrabble around on top of a bin in the dirt etc. The whole fiasco with tyres is laughable enough anyways, there are enough available manufacturers worldwide, allow a bit of competition and finally drive the prices down not up. Edited January 25 by Sings4Speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Rules change every 5 minutes but there was nothing to stop riders fitting a tyre at home (same manufacturer etc) getting it marked then taking the new tyre from the meeting and repeating the process. Most do fit tyres at track but not all like to scrabble around on top of a bin in the dirt etc. The whole fiasco with tyres is laughable enough anyways, there are enough available manufacturers worldwide, allow a bit of competition and finally drive the prices down not up. In the National league you can turn up with tyre fitted but has to be approved in the championship it is supplied by the home track already marked and is fitted there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I notice in Poland and in the GP's that the fuel is centralised and all use the same.. (I presume fuel tanks are empty upon arrival? Or it might defeat the objective).. Why dont UK Speedway do it? Surely cheaper to buy in bulk rather than riders all paying indivdually, and it would mean less money paid out to riders to cover this cost they take on.. I seem to remember when I visited the pits a fair few moons ago, that it used to happen in the UK.. What stopped it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, mikebv said: I notice in Poland and in the GP's that the fuel is centralised and all use the same.. (I presume fuel tanks are empty upon arrival? Or it might defeat the objective).. Why dont UK Speedway do it? Surely cheaper to buy in bulk rather than riders all paying indivdually, and it would mean less money paid out to riders to cover this cost they take on.. I seem to remember when I visited the pits a fair few moons ago, that it used to happen in the UK.. What stopped it? with regards buying fuel in bulk ! i am sure it has a short shelf life and can absorb water . i think it goes a sort of dullish black . ? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, mikebv said: I notice in Poland and in the GP's that the fuel is centralised and all use the same.. (I presume fuel tanks are empty upon arrival? Or it might defeat the objective).. Why dont UK Speedway do it? Surely cheaper to buy in bulk rather than riders all paying indivdually, and it would mean less money paid out to riders to cover this cost they take on.. I seem to remember when I visited the pits a fair few moons ago, that it used to happen in the UK.. What stopped it? Maybe modern day health and safety when unattended? Although would think no worse than gas bottles etc. Edited January 25 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 On 1/25/2024 at 10:52 AM, mikebv said: I notice in Poland and in the GP's that the fuel is centralised and all use the same.. (I presume fuel tanks are empty upon arrival? Or it might defeat the objective).. Why dont UK Speedway do it? Surely cheaper to buy in bulk rather than riders all paying indivdually, and it would mean less money paid out to riders to cover this cost they take on.. I seem to remember when I visited the pits a fair few moons ago, that it used to happen in the UK.. What stopped it? As someone who supplied methanol to a track and a qualified ‘ DGSA ‘, there’s a lot of rules & regulations regarding storage and transport of dangerous goods which make it restrictive to anyone dealing with it. Clubs have never supplied it , always been from ‘ the spares van ‘ type supplier . No club would want to store thousands of litres of a flammable liquid if they didn’t have too ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 One day this century Workington will announce their final rider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 57 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: One day this century Workington will announce their final rider I'd genuinely pay extra to see Steve Lawson having a crack. I remember him taking the first laps of the new circuit 2 years ago and he didn't look too bad for a 64-year-old (66 now). Anyone know what average he'd come in at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 41 minutes ago, Nickinho said: I'd genuinely pay extra to see Steve Lawson having a crack. I remember him taking the first laps of the new circuit 2 years ago and he didn't look too bad for a 64-year-old (66 now). Anyone know what average he'd come in at? Scunny on a 3.Worky on a 10.5.!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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