Steve Shovlar Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, HARLEY11A said: Steve yes no were your going , but in this watered down campion L , i would hope they could hold there average or up by 1 point. They might up their average in a weaker league, however riders from other clubs will also think they can up theirs as well. Riders like Batch and of his age/career tend to play the percentage game. Score 8 with no risk, don’t chase down the rider in front and therefore don’t get injured = regular pay packet. Push for those extra points =risk = injury and pain, no earnings and weeks out. Younger riders don’t think that way, take the risk and progress (or face time out injured!). Tate should be the rider everyone should be watching in that team, like Ben Basso was at Poole a couple of seasons ago. Might come up when Poole visit, though hoping BSN are there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunters Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 33 minutes ago, H20 said: No I was hoping it was not Troy reading some posts earlier. He is well past his best and former he certainly is. Hard to work with to going of a few past clubs stories so with our young novice team manager who has only looked after the kids team. He gonna have his work cut out looking after the young lads our female rider then Cooke and Troy. Very strange signing will win heats when he Gates but if not will be just taking the piss at the back. Let’s wait and see. Yes the novice may struggle managing this team. Let’s see how the Team Manager deals with it. If he is anything like his businessman Grandad then he will be ruthless. He wasn’t afraid to upset a few. Can’t wait for March. Worky worky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, iainb said: I'm a bit nervous for you with everyone really... there's a lot of question marks in that Worky line-up A lot? Think you mean 2 honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 i see young denham similar manager to ritchie hawkings i know ritchie rode but chris louis is no mug hes always there to over see things just like steve lawson is always there for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 What was alternative really for worky? Sedgy I wouldn't have as a no.2, riss allegedly giving UK a miss, Richie banned. Can't think of anyone else around that average is/ was available. Will no doubt be inconsistent but guess say that about every Workington sighing, what makes them so intriguing going into the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 if workington go through the season and it pays its own way i see that as a good season then the new riders will be club assets and be stronger for 2025 no one wants to finish bottom of league and get hammered at home but if they have good racing and decent crowd then ill be happy enough 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 18 minutes ago, CTD26 said: A lot? Think you mean 2 honestly You're right, I should have said all! 4 riders on assessed averages, 3 of which have not raced in Britain (regularly) before Cook, big question mark whether his head is still in it... and Batch for that matter. There's really no forecasting how that team will perform! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Yep. Hans is the perfect signing. Just need everyone to climb aboard the De Lorean in back to the future, turn the clock to 2010, then you have a championship winning team. Seriously, Cook, Batchelor and Vissing, if he is the missing link, have no improvement in them. You have Antti Vuolas 5.0 and Tate Zischke 5.00 who look good prospects, and a team needs riders who can improve. I wish Workington a successful season with good crowds, good racing and goodwill. But the touted team won’t get near the playoffs. The inclusion of Celina Leibman is great for publicity but seriously? Would Englands best female player get a team place at Swindon Town or Wigan? I have to disagree & say there is improvement in all 3 of them, Cook was going great till the crash that injured the photographer, Vissing averaged 7.07 for Glasgow but carrying his Birmingham scores, drops that to 6.24. Batchelor probably had the least improvement in him, but he's shown he's a ok "3rd heat leader" at Oxford & Birmingham, in a weaker league could be a "2nd heat leader". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 I like the look of the Workington team, BUT it is the sort of team that could get hammered away, especially early on while the new foreigners get used to the UK tracks. But you could say the same for Oxford, their bottom 4 could all score 0 away from home on a bad day! As for Batchelor, if he can get a 7.16 average when he apparently "can't be bothered" think what average he could get if he "can be bothered". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: I was writing about your top three. If Cook has sorted out his personal issues, and Batchelor is in the mood, the team has a decent chance of winning some home meetings, but not against the top sides in the league. The Workington track is big and wide, so no fear for away riders even on their first visit. The reserves are desperately weak in my opinion. But there are weaker sides. Berwick, Edinburgh, Plymouth. If Celina doesn't ride to her average, then Workington have used up 6 points for a weaker reserve pairing, while other clubs will have only used 4-5 points. So they'd need improvement from Vuolas & Zischke to cover that. It's so hard to know what she'll do, as opinions on her ability differ greatly. Edited January 1 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) Personally not a fan of Batch for all the reasons mentioned on here, this was reinforced when he disrespected the paying public at the Championship Pairs last season not trying and pulling wheelies at the back. On the plus side he has great pedigree, experience and as a fellow Aussie he can hopefully help mentor young Tate. Edited January 1 by SteelShoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, SteelShoe said: Personally not a fan of Batch for all the reasons mentioned on here, this was reinforced when he disrespected the paying public at the Championship Pairs last season not trying and pulling wheelies at the back. I've not seen that match, so maybe that's why I'm more keen on him than any others. But if a rider did that in my team, I'd be sacking him the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I've not seen that match, so maybe that's why I'm more keen on him than any others. But if a rider did that in my team, I'd be sacking him the next day. It was very disrespectful and pretty pathetic.Deserved to be sacked but Birmingham couldn’t really afford too IMO..Dickson was Team manager that night I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Claus Vissing good fit for our final rider. If it is to be Claus and he reproduces his Glasgow form I'll be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 I think for as much good publicity as Liebmann has brought, it's left the team terribly unbalanced. A lot of pressure on 4 riders on their first season of championship racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, iainb said: You're right, I should have said all! 4 riders on assessed averages, 3 of which have not raced in Britain (regularly) before Cook, big question mark whether his head is still in it... and Batch for that matter. There's really no forecasting how that team will perform! The only 2 I have reservations about are Liebemenn and batchelor the rest will be fine. Cook will be one of the best riders in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 17 minutes ago, CTD26 said: The only 2 I have reservations about are Liebemenn and batchelor the rest will be fine. Cook will be one of the best riders in the league I hope you're right... we'll see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Josh Auty Think Auty will be the last signing on an injury reducted average to fit under the 6.32 left, we will see. Hopefully they'll announce the final rider in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 26 minutes ago, Marksman said: Think Auty will be the last signing on an injury reducted average to fit under the 6.32 left, we will see. Hopefully they'll announce the final rider in the next few days. Will he get an average reduction? Others in the past haven’t… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 56 minutes ago, spin king junior said: I think for as much good publicity as Liebmann has brought, it's left the team terribly unbalanced. A lot of pressure on 4 riders on their first season of championship racing. Celina is obviously a bit of an unknown quantity but to say her signing has left the team terribly unbalanced is in my view an overstatement. Looking at the reserve pairings of the Championship teams most are made up of one or two fairly inexperienced 2 pointers. Celina has been riding for 17 years, on the right equipment I'm confident she will hold her own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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