szkocjasid Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, j2ohh said: err , go on then . please tell us more of any benefits that we gained fron the top b,nannas . do tell us more . facts only please BTW, celina is averaging 3.62 from an assesed 4.00 ave . shame some teams cant/wont think outside the box and still tryi to buy the league . She's actually averaging 2.21, so Workington haven't gained an advantage, but that's still irrelevant, why come out with a detailed set of rules & not follow them? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 4 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: She's actually averaging 2.21, so Workington haven't gained an advantage, but that's still irrelevant, why come out with a detailed set of rules & not follow them? Because Workington have a good track and stadium,the league needed teams to make up the numbers so they have been afforded alot of favourable dispensation which is why they can afford to sign riders like Vissing. Why their supporters can't understand this baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 3 minutes ago, lewy said: Because Workington have a good track and stadium,the league needed teams to make up the numbers so they have been afforded alot of favourable dispensation which is why they can afford to sign riders like Vissing. Why their supporters can't understand this baffles me. You really need to tell what all these dispensation were,it is baffling what you are saying. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ohh Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, lewy said: Because Workington have a good track and stadium,the league needed teams to make up the numbers so they have been afforded alot of favourable dispensation which is why they can afford to sign riders like Vissing. Why their supporters can't understand this baffles me. can you show us any info on this please . dont beat yourself up if you cannot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 6 hours ago, lewy said: You're absolutely correct but Workington have had alot of extra benefits afforded to them by the bspl. Like what ?? Care to explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Bastian Pedersen would come in on a 4.00 wouldn’t he? He’s a very exciting young prospect from when I’ve seen him, just another one with the added cost of travel to/from UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 the rider i'd be looking to get is Bednar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4BM said: Bastian Pedersen would come in on a 4.00 wouldn’t he? He’s a very exciting young prospect from when I’ve seen him, just another one with the added cost of travel to/from UK I take he is a Dane so not available when Glasgow at Poole or Oxford? One of the reasons they didn't sign Vissing back apparently according to Cami (not available on Wed). Although Vissing was just at Poole on a Weds lol. Edited May 18 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 12 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I take he is a Dane so not available when Glasgow at Poole or Oxford? One of the reasons they didn't sign Vissing back apparently according to Cami (not available on Wed). Although Vissing was just at Poole on a Weds lol. Seems an odd decision not to sign a Dane, unless you are a Wednesday club. I'm sure both Workington & Berwick are delighted with Vissing & Borke & would just need to plan when to race at Poole / Oxford. It's not like Danish teams ride every Wednesday of the year. Perhaps Cami trying to deflect the blame of not picking the right riders I wonder? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 4 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Seems an odd decision not to sign a Dane, unless you are a Wednesday club. I'm sure both Workington & Berwick are delighted with Vissing & Borke & would just need to plan when to race at Poole / Oxford. It's not like Danish teams ride every Wednesday of the year. Perhaps Cami trying to deflect the blame of not picking the right riders I wonder? Don’t think you are far off with the team building appraisal. Whatever way you look at it whoever thought this team would be top 4 made an absolute James Hunt off the team building. Obviously losing Complin could not have been foreseen ,and it might have been a completely different outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Even with Complin, I didn’t think this was a top four team. I’m not mad about it, they got who they wanted (so they said), but they miscalculated in their assessments of some of the riders they brought in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 7 minutes ago, Noelinho said: Even with Complin, I didn’t think this was a top four team. I’m not mad about it, they got who they wanted (so they said), but they miscalculated in their assessments of some of the riders they brought in. Replacing Vissing with Flint and Worrall for Brennan was criminal. Nothing against Flint but he is bang average at Ashfield . Brennan has went up another level this year whilst Worrall has probably dropped a level , Brennan probably wanted a track nearer to his base down south but we have lost out big time after 2 seasons off improvement from him and looks like he is one off the leagues top performers. Think we need to look at possibly a couple of changes to try and stem the flow of mediocrity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 21 minutes ago, Gazc said: Replacing Vissing with Flint and Worrall for Brennan was criminal. Nothing against Flint but he is bang average at Ashfield . Brennan has went up another level this year whilst Worrall has probably dropped a level , Brennan probably wanted a track nearer to his base down south but we have lost out big time after 2 seasons off improvement from him and looks like he is one off the leagues top performers. Think we need to look at possibly a couple of changes to try and stem the flow of mediocrity. In a very short space of time, the self imposed no Danes rule looks completely ludicrous whatever its intentions were. Ditching Vissing for Flint was just mental. Brennan needed pastures new however Stevie W I agree wasnt the answer. I still think we would have arrived at this point of having to restructure the team, just the Complin situation sped it up a week or two. Some flawed thinking over the winter that clearly hasn't worked out. Thank goodness Pearson has exceeded expectations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB723 Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Getting Leon on a 6.40 was a big mistake as he was never going to get it much higher especially riding at Ashfield, to me more likely for it to drop, the only reason it did go up slightly was because he was always riding with Starke who to me was only signed because the promotion spent all their points on two riders who weren't going to improve. You need riders who aren't afraid to attack the track, Flint and Worrall (especially Worrall) won't, problem is I don't see the promotion dropping either. The only reason I can see them signing all Brits (and Pearson) is to save some pennies to give the top league a go next year. I actually wouldn't have signed Brennan this year, I think the form he is on now is due to not riding at Glasgow, to me he just couldn't quite understand the track and that was affecting him, happy to see him riding well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, MB723 said: Getting Leon on a 6.40 was a big mistake as he was never going to get it much higher especially riding at Ashfield, to me more likely for it to drop, the only reason it did go up slightly was because he was always riding with Starke who to me was only signed because the promotion spent all their points on two riders who weren't going to improve. You need riders who aren't afraid to attack the track, Flint and Worrall (especially Worrall) won't, problem is I don't see the promotion dropping either. The only reason I can see them signing all Brits (and Pearson) is to save some pennies to give the top league a go next year. I actually wouldn't have signed Brennan this year, I think the form he is on now is due to not riding at Glasgow, to me he just couldn't quite understand the track and that was affecting him, happy to see him riding well though. Bet he understands the track when he comes calling with Poole………lol. I’d gladly have kept him this year……and was it not due to the fact that initially he intimated he might not do the Championship that he wasn’t signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Starke will be away in the next few weeks, smith will probably sign permanently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB723 Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 55 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: Bet he understands the track when he comes calling with Poole………lol. I’d gladly have kept him this year……and was it not due to the fact that initially he intimated he might not do the Championship that he wasn’t signed? He is a good rider so I wouldn't be surprised if he does well. I think his indesision was part of the reason as he would have been a safe signing (and in hindsight a one we should have done) but he was in a bit of a slump at home (or maybe just inconsistent, can't fully remeber), only getting out of it when he got to ride at No2. I would guess that also factored into the desision because if the promoton believed in him they wouldn't have let him go as easily as they seemed to have done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 You should have thought out of the box and signed the likes of tate Zischke and antti voulas UTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 15 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Seems an odd decision not to sign a Dane, unless you are a Wednesday club. I'm sure both Workington & Berwick are delighted with Vissing & Borke & would just need to plan when to race at Poole / Oxford. It's not like Danish teams ride every Wednesday of the year. Perhaps Cami trying to deflect the blame of not picking the right riders I wonder? League meetings weren't the problem, it was BSN and Play off dates which aren't known at the start of the season.. Do we have a Poole fixation? Is that why we signed Worrall, seemingly a Poole specialist? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 7 hours ago, Neila said: You should have thought out of the box and signed the likes of tate Zischke and antti voulas UTC I really thought Zischke would have been on Glasgow’s radar over the winter. He was certainly on my personal team building list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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