Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Noelinho said: If Ace could take the bulk Lee needs to lose, the two would both be set fair. Complin could do himself a massive favour this winter by going in a keto diet. He would shift the weight no problem, if he wanted to. Be a far better rider next year by doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Tough to know what to make of that team, yes it looks weak, but all teams will probably end up looking weak. I will point out that Brennan & Vissing could've fitted in that team as heat leaders, so while many blame the points limit for Glasgow dropping so many riders, the truth is they dropped more than they needed to. It’s probably down to finances. Glasgow 2023 cost an absolute fortune and with not very large crowds probably cost Faccena a small fortune. Bringing in Tarasenko would have cost an arm and a leg and perhaps now Faccena has won a title he is going to cut his cloth to fit the clubs income. That 2024 team would cost way less than 2023. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: It’s probably down to finances. Glasgow 2023 cost an absolute fortune and with not very large crowds probably cost Faccena a small fortune. Bringing in Tarasenko would have cost an arm and a leg and perhaps now Faccena has won a title he is going to cut his cloth to fit the clubs income. That 2024 team would cost way less than 2023. Expert on Glasgow finances now.What next.!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Expert on Glasgow finances now.What next.!!! Just got to look at back issues of speedway star after the season has finished, several times it said Glasgow s "success" has cost a small fortune, even quoted after Poole threw the title away that the owners had invested over £3 million since taking over the club, yes Glasgow are still running but probably at a high cost to the owners every year. Edited October 28, 2023 by Neila 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Expert on Glasgow finances now.What next.!!! Thankfully for us he knows absolutely nothing and I mean nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Neila said: Just got to look at back issues of speedway star after the season has finished, several times it said Glasgow s "success" has cost a small fortune, even quoted after Poole threw the title away that the owners had invested over £3 million since taking over the club, yes Glasgow are still running but probably at a high cost to the owners every year. What do you mean in relation to Poole threw the title away?. In general the context of this regards to the owners investing in the club is not entirely true, they have invested a lot in the community which falls under the banner of the club. They are local business men and very successful and always said it wasn’t just the Speedway club but the community they wanted to give something back to. Bit misleading in the context you quote. Edited October 28, 2023 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Neila said: Just got to look at back issues of speedway star after the season has finished, several times it said Glasgow s "success" has cost a small fortune, even quoted after Poole threw the title away that the owners had invested over £3 million since taking over the club, yes Glasgow are still running but probably at a high cost to the owners every year. At least they have the money to lose.Unlike Workington who won everything at great expense to the riders and everybody else they owed money too when they went down the tubes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Expert on Glasgow finances now.What next.!!! Just have to have business acumen. Facenna is a successful businessman and successful businessmen don’t throw good money after bad. Like any businessman he will cut his cloth to the relative income of the club. Now he has won his title it’s clear that is happening, if the muted team is the actual team. Harris and Worrall are British based and affordable. Flint, Starke won’t be on big wages. Complin, Pearson and Pijper will be on the usual rates for reserves. No paying for flights as all UK based. No big signing on fees, no paying for hotels/accomodation. Pretty much a shoestring side, and will be pretty difficult to find one put together that will be as cheap to finance. This isn’t a dig at Glasgow at all. Some other teams might also be this weak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ah here come the accountant wallopers, took longer than I thought but here they are Having had a thought about the team, it seems very similar to the Ipswich team from this season. A top 2 should score 23 points between them anywhere, an inconsistent 3rd HL, a young 2nd string who'll fluctuate between reserve and 2nd string, an experienced rider as your lead 2nd string and a couple 3 point odd reserves. They didn't do too badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Ah here come the accountant wallopers, took longer than I thought but here they are Having had a thought about the team, it seems very similar to the Ipswich team from this season. A top 2 should score 23 points between them anywhere, an inconsistent 3rd HL, a young 2nd string who'll fluctuate between reserve and 2nd string, an experienced rider as your lead 2nd string and a couple 3 point odd reserves. They didn't do too badly You tell yourself that. Most others can see that 1-7 for what it is. If Poole announced that lineup there would be uproar and complete ridicule. Its incredulous Glasgow seem to be making no effort to retain in 24. Edited October 28, 2023 by Steve Shovlar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: You tell yourself that. Most others can see that 1-7 for what it is. If Poole announced that lineup there would be uproar. Its incredulous Glasgow seem to be making no effort to retain in 24. That's it we should all take our opinion from Steve shovlar . Let's hope rumour you're off to "save the prem" are true 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Don't bite folks, don't bite Any team with Worrall and Harris in it isn't going to be 'shoestring' anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Jaizer said: That's it we should all take our opinion from Steve shovlar . Let's hope rumour you're off to "save the prem" are true Christ no, don't want that lot with us again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: You tell yourself that. Most others can see that 1-7 for what it is. If Poole announced that lineup there would be uproar. Its incredulous Glasgow seem to be making no effort to retain in 24. I’m beginning to think you are not a wind up merchant after all and that you actually BELIEVE the absolute rubbish you spout. Dearie me! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Christ no, don't want that lot with us again. Haha they're your problem now mate lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jaizer said: That's it we should all take our opinion from Steve shovlar . Let's hope rumour you're off to "save the prem" are true It’s my opinion. There’s a saying, “there’s non so blind as those that will not see.” Understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant. If you honestly believe that 1-7 will “do an Ipswich” then good luck to you. If Poole had announced that 1-7 I would be angry and gutted and call it out for what it is. You don’t honestly, deep down, believe that is a decent side, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Don't bite folks, don't bite Any team with Worrall and Harris in it isn't going to be 'shoestring' anyway. No its not , if this does happen to be the 2024 side it looks like having an all British team makes it easier to arrange and rearrange fixtures without having to worry about losing riders to any fixtures abroad same as what has happened in the past . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: I’m beginning to think you are not a wind up merchant after all and that you actually BELIEVE the absolute rubbish you spout. Dearie me! He is not a wind up merchant he is a parody of a wind up merchant. And not even a good parody. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 So let’s hear Glasgow fans thoughts. Paulco has given his opinion. Let’s hear how this 1-7 are going to emulate 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Its very difficult to tell until everyone else reveals their hand, but what Glasgow have is several riders who have room for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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