Gavan Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 3:46 PM, lisa-colette said: Lol. Zach got 14 at Scunny the other day outscoring Dougie by a point. He also won the Olympique last night, where experienced track specialists like Dougie and Harris got sixes and sevens. And yet he is going to only be a Champ second string according to you. Either you are trolling or never watch him ride! lol Expand Zach is a decent enough rider but i cant see him improving much past where he is Averaging 6.22 isnt pulling up any trees He does his job scoring 7 or 8 at home and often beating his opposing number second string and the other teams reserve. He did very well at Scunthorpe and did out score Duggy but had one extra ride and yes he won the Olympique but that throws up odd results because of the format Ben is the one going places out of the two. That said i would take either at Ipswich next season as a number 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 I’ve always thought Borke would end up at Glasgow next season. Watching him at Armadale was painful at times, sadly, as such a talented rider but one of the worst gaters and struggled on the tighter track. Less of an issue at Glasgow. Sure he’d prefer a home track he’s far more comfortable on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 I wud have kept tom b if I'm honest with his gb discount he's about 7 I think not higher maybe a wee bit lower he's getting better slowly & a rider only going to get better which is the trick in team building ..borke under 4 is good buisness as he likes ashfield ...but I heard a while ago tigers spoke to kye Thomson ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerM22 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 3:41 PM, HGould said: Cook brothers will end up like Kurtz brothers. A decent PL heat leader and international level (Ben) and a journeyman PL reserve and CL second string respectively. (Zach) As with Brady and Todd Expand I definitely think there'll be a gap between them but let's be real here, Zach Cook has already surpassed Todd Kurtz quite comfortably. I could see him being closer to someone like Steve Worrall/Richard Lawson maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 I wud have kept tom b if I'm honest with his gb discount he's about 7 I think not higher maybe a wee bit lower he's getting better slowly & a rider only going to get better which is the trick in team building ..borke under 4 is good buisness as he likes ashfield ...but I heard a while ago tigers spoke to kye Thomson ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 Brennan leaving not in team plans for 2024 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 4:02 PM, Barabas said: If glasgow don't want him how is it up to connor ...Glasgow let him go before & he didn't want to leave so ???...if Glasgow want him then it's up to connor to say yes or no simple as that Expand Which is what I said, if three clubs want him he'll choose which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryxo Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 I thought Brennan was leaving before the official announcement. He done an interview with Gdansk, who he's just signed with, and seemed to undermine the championship. I get the impression he's aiming for Gdansk & a Premiership team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 3:18 PM, lisa-colette said: Only @Cast1rn has a fascination with their averages. Which are 7.39 for Ben and 6.22 for Zach. Ben's seem what you would expect imo. Maybe Zach's would be considered false considering the form he is on atm. If you want them, you would have to get rid of at least Basso or Harris are maybe even both and have King as no1 for example. Expand You called... their averages at the start of 2023 were 6.09 for Ben, now 7.39 and Zach was 4.92 now 6.22. So both riders put 1.30 on their averages riding in the main body of the team, last year Zach was riding at #6 and if the playoffs and cups had counted he would've been on around a 7. Something. So my point was the averages they were on were nonsense for this season, Now they are on the realistic averages and I will be massively surprised if they are both with Poole next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 5:59 PM, Barabas said: I wud have kept tom b if I'm honest with his gb discount he's about 7 I think not higher maybe a wee bit lower he's getting better slowly & a rider only going to get better which is the trick in team building ..borke under 4 is good buisness as he likes ashfield ...but I heard a while ago tigers spoke to kye Thomson ?. Expand Borke won't be under 4 he'll be 4.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 7:16 PM, Cast1rn said: You called... their averages at the start of 2023 were 6.09 for Ben, now 7.39 and Zach was 4.92 now 6.22. So both riders put 1.30 on their averages riding in the main body of the team, last year Zach was riding at #6 and if the playoffs and cups had counted he would've been on around a 7. Something. So my point was the averages they were on were nonsense for this season, Now they are on the realistic averages and I will be massively surprised if they are both with Poole next year. Expand I get the feeling you want them split up, but I would be surprised if they are not at Poole. Well Redcar is both of their second choices btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 7:16 PM, Cast1rn said: You called... their averages at the start of 2023 were 6.09 for Ben, now 7.39 and Zach was 4.92 now 6.22. So both riders put 1.30 on their averages riding in the main body of the team, last year Zach was riding at #6 and if the playoffs and cups had counted he would've been on around a 7. Something. So my point was the averages they were on were nonsense for this season, now they are on the realistic averages and I will be massively surprised if they are both with Poole next year. Expand I would honestly be massively surprised if they weren't both at Poole next year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 5:59 PM, Barabas said: I wud have kept tom b if I'm honest with his gb discount he's about 7 I think not higher maybe a wee bit lower he's getting better slowly & a rider only going to get better which is the trick in team building ..borke under 4 is good buisness as he likes ashfield ...but I heard a while ago tigers spoke to kye Thomson ?. Expand I would have kept Brennan too, gets a British discount, plus had a lot of meetings at number 5, which would lower his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 7:54 PM, szkocjasid said: I would honestly be massively surprised if they weren't both at Poole next year. Expand They might even be at 1 and 5?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabas Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 6:52 PM, tyretrax said: Which is what I said, if three clubs want him he'll choose which one. Expand And I've said it's already been done his choice is glasgow, ive heard he's let it known to friends up here ..so it's already been made it's up to glasgow if they want him & can fit him in .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 Borke is on 4.00 and Fredriksen is on 4.57. Borke's away average was 4.12, whereas Fredriksen's was 6.36. It's all very well saying Borke went great at Ashfield, but if we want to have a shot at retaining our title, we need to focus on away form. Borke was not a good away scorer. We don't want to be taking riders whose real average is below their actual average IMO. And for all that Bastian scored 8 at Ashfield in the Championship match, Lasse scored 9, including beating Marcin Nowak in heat 8. That didn't happen often. Lasse's under-rated, for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 8:45 PM, Noelinho said: Borke is on 4.00 and Fredriksen is on 4.57. Borke's away average was 4.12, whereas Fredriksen's was 6.36. It's all very well saying Borke went great at Ashfield, but if we want to have a shot at retaining our title, we need to focus on away form. Borke was not a good away scorer. We don't want to be taking riders whose real average is below their actual average IMO. And for all that Bastian scored 8 at Ashfield in the Championship match, Lasse scored 9, including beating Marcin Nowak in heat 8. That didn't happen often. Lasse's under-rated, for me. Expand Fredricksen has been very unlucky with injuries,certainly on a good averages if he could steer clear of injury.Lasse was ok at Ashfield in the GP Challenge a couple of seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 7:35 PM, lisa-colette said: I get the feeling you want them split up, but I would be surprised if they are not at Poole. Well Redcar is both of their second choices btw Expand I'd take Ben cook in a heart beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 8:53 PM, Cast1rn said: I'd take Ben cook in a heart beat Expand I'm sure you would! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 8:45 PM, Noelinho said: Borke is on 4.00 and Fredriksen is on 4.57. Borke's away average was 4.12, whereas Fredriksen's was 6.36. It's all very well saying Borke went great at Ashfield, but if we want to have a shot at retaining our title, we need to focus on away form. Borke was not a good away scorer. We don't want to be taking riders whose real average is below their actual average IMO. And for all that Bastian scored 8 at Ashfield in the Championship match, Lasse scored 9, including beating Marcin Nowak in heat 8. That didn't happen often. Lasse's under-rated, for me. Expand You only really need to be good away on the play-offs. Signing riders who you hope will come good with more experience on British tracks isn't a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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