Aries Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 6 hours ago, 4BM said: Sheffield ride their 18th league match (75% marker) of the season on 1st August, can they really afford to wait for Woffinden? He’s not going to ride until Cardiff and even if he did ride prior I imagine Wroclaw will have first dibs on his services possibly the weekend prior to Cardiff and if that doesn’t go to plan for him that’s R/R and guests for the rest of the season and we’ve seen how that hasn’t worked recently. Surely if there’s anyone out there (Musielak, Lambert, both have good relations with the club) that can ride from next week/week afters fixtures before we hit that 75% threshold they need to come in. Gone are the days of Woffinden bringing in additional 10’s of fans to Owlerton (away meetings possibly) and a new face might just bring that team spirit spark back which hasn’t been there this season. You have to wonder whether internal talks between the clubs on the 75% rule should be scrapped. There’s currently 3 clubs missing a top heatleader and struggling to replace them. Ipswich for example, have known since the end of May that Doyle was out for the season and I know for a fact they’ve tried every top line rider out there without success. They’ve been close a couple of times, but ultimately couldn’t get them over the line. Sheffield and now Lynn are now having the same issues. My understanding is that there are a couple that would be willing to come, but not before clubs reach their 75% cut off. Let’s see if this “rule” stays in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 9 hours ago, 4BM said: Sheffield ride their 18th league match (75% marker) of the season on 1st August, can they really afford to wait for Woffinden? He’s not going to ride until Cardiff and even if he did ride prior I imagine Wroclaw will have first dibs on his services possibly the weekend prior to Cardiff and if that doesn’t go to plan for him that’s R/R and guests for the rest of the season and we’ve seen how that hasn’t worked recently. Surely if there’s anyone out there (Musielak, Lambert, both have good relations with the club) that can ride from next week/week afters fixtures before we hit that 75% threshold they need to come in. Gone are the days of Woffinden bringing in additional 10’s of fans to Owlerton (away meetings possibly) and a new face might just bring that team spirit spark back which hasn’t been there this season. Lambert has been asked and already said no, also sounds like BSPA putting a blocker on Tobi so presumably also a no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 19 hours ago, stevebrum said: It was always going to be about him DJ’ing. That’s his priority these days. So his major announcement was that he hopes to be back for Cardiff and he`s going to play some records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 9 hours ago, therefused said: Lambert has been asked and already said no, also sounds like BSPA putting a blocker on Tobi so presumably also a no go. I can understand the logic of the BSPL saying to Musielak, you can't say you have to leave Lynn because you are injured, then all of a sudden say you're fit when another club needs you. But at the same time if it's ok for clubs to drop riders, why can't riders "drop" clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 13 hours ago, Aries said: You have to wonder whether internal talks between the clubs on the 75% rule should be scrapped. There’s currently 3 clubs missing a top heatleader and struggling to replace them. Ipswich for example, have known since the end of May that Doyle was out for the season and I know for a fact they’ve tried every top line rider out there without success. They’ve been close a couple of times, but ultimately couldn’t get them over the line. Sheffield and now Lynn are now having the same issues. My understanding is that there are a couple that would be willing to come, but not before clubs reach their 75% cut off. Let’s see if this “rule” stays in place. Redcar have been told they can't sign a replacement for Bailey, do have to use guests for the rest of the season. This is where the rule is stupid, it was brought on to stop riders, signing just for the play-offs, but did they consider the consequences - injured / retiring riders not being able to be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Redcar have been told they can't sign a replacement for Bailey, do have to use guests for the rest of the season. This is where the rule is stupid, it was brought on to stop riders, signing just for the play-offs, but did they consider the consequences - injured / retiring riders not being able to be replaced. It was an entirely predictable outcome. Whether we agree with Belle Vue signing Lambert to replace the injured Fricke is down to personal views. However, there was such an outcry that SCB changed the rules - and now we have the current position. Sometimes speedway reaps what it sows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 50 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: It was an entirely predictable outcome. Whether we agree with Belle Vue signing Lambert to replace the injured Fricke is down to personal views. However, there was such an outcry that SCB changed the rules - and now we have the current position. Sometimes speedway reaps what it sows. It was always going to change because they knew it was wrong allowing Lambert to sign just for the play offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 6 hours ago, stevebrum said: It was always going to change because they knew it was wrong allowing Lambert to sign just for the play offs. That's a matter of opinion. Now we have the consequence that a number of teams are entering the last portion of the season, including the playoffs, where using guests is inevitable even if other riders may be available to replace genuinely injured riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 8 hours ago, Sir Sidney said: It was an entirely predictable outcome. Whether we agree with Belle Vue signing Lambert to replace the injured Fricke is down to personal views. However, there was such an outcry that SCB changed the rules - and now we have the current position. Sometimes speedway reaps what it sows. Must admit, it doesn’t sit right with me when people make hay due to the misfortune of others. That’s across the board and not just speedway. That undercurrent of glee when a team is hit by injury as opposing fans see their chances of success increase is abhorrent to me, old fashioned I know and very much in the minority on here. The “Tai” rule (apparently) needs to be in place to do what it was set out to do - stop unscrupulous clubs signing ringers for the play offs - but it should NOT impact clubs with genuine long term injury woes. I’d much rather come up against the Witches or Tigers with Bartoz as a full team member than the current preferred system of guests, guests, guests, especially at the time of year when the media takes a greater interest in the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyTalk Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 (edited) Couple of questions. Is Woffy returning this year? What happened to the NDL match against Belle Vue. Didn't get ridden on the scheduled date and no longer on the fixture list? Thanks Edited July 29 by ShyTalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 16 minutes ago, ShyTalk said: Couple of questions. Is Woffy returning this year? What happened to the NFL match against Belle Vue. Didn't get ridden on the scheduled date and no longer on the fixture list? Thanks Woffy has said he will try and be back for Cardiff so will be using R/R and guests for next couple of weeks at least until it’s certain if he can overcome his injury. the BV fixture is to be scheduled still I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 5 hours ago, ShyTalk said: Couple of questions. Is Woffy returning this year? What happened to the NFL match against Belle Vue. Didn't get ridden on the scheduled date and no longer on the fixture list? Thanks Didn't know Sheffield were in the NFL lol! But there's plenty of NDL matches still to be arranged, nearly every club in the league has a fixture to be announced. That division will get ignored as long as the main club is still got a chance of play-offs etc. Probably expected the NDL to be busy in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 On 7/28/2024 at 9:33 PM, szkocjasid said: Didn't know Sheffield were in the NFL lol! But there's plenty of NDL matches still to be arranged, nearly every club in the league has a fixture to be announced. That division will get ignored as long as the main club is still got a chance of play-offs etc. Probably expected the NDL to be busy in October. Leicester Cubs have completed all of their home matches!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 On 7/28/2024 at 9:33 PM, szkocjasid said: Didn't know Sheffield were in the NFL lol! But there's plenty of NDL matches still to be arranged, nearly every club in the league has a fixture to be announced. That division will get ignored as long as the main club is still got a chance of play-offs etc. Probably expected the NDL to be busy in October. And yet Oxford running three teams in three leagues will have completed their NDL home programme in August and are ahead of almost every team in the Prem and Championship in terms of home matches ridden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 (edited) On 7/18/2024 at 9:52 PM, Sir Sidney said: It was an entirely predictable outcome. Whether we agree with Belle Vue signing Lambert to replace the injured Fricke is down to personal views. However, there was such an outcry that SCB changed the rules - and now we have the current position. Sometimes speedway reaps what it sows. I had no problem with Belle Vue signing Lambert. I did have a problem when Belle Vue said Lambert was injured so he didn't race in a league meeting after the play offs (making it look dodgy). Edited July 31 by Gambo95 Info added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Gambo95 said: I had no problem with Belle Vue signing Lambert. I did have a problem when Belle Vue said Lambert was injured so he didn't race in a league meeting after the play offs (making it look dodgy). Lambert said he was injured NOT b/Vue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, AceBelle said: Lambert said he was injured NOT b/Vue That doesn't matter to me. It looks like he was signed only for the play offs with him missing the league match, hence me changing my opinion on the signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Gambo95 said: That doesn't matter to me. It looks like he was signed only for the play offs with him missing the league match, hence me changing my opinion on the signing. https://www.fimspeedway.com/news/fricke-confirms-2022-season-over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Gambo95 said: That doesn't matter to me. It looks like he was signed only for the play offs with him missing the league match, hence me changing my opinion on the signing. a meaningless meeting after the play/offs had been won !! if chapman hadn't played his usual games when he cancelled the meeting on a perfectly dry day due to rain forecast which prooved pathetic back fired on him which has been prooved even more pathetic this season !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBelle Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Gambo95 said: That doesn't matter to me. It looks like he was signed only for the play offs with him missing the league match, hence me changing my opinion on the signing. off course it was for the play/offs there was only the kings lynn fixture outstanding from league matches which chapman cancelled on a pathetic wrong weather forecast which never came !! and Lambert only rode in 3 play/off meetings !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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