torpointfanatic22 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Redflag said: Jacob Hook is the Gladiators 5th signing. Never impressed to be honest, but with reserves looking weaker this season due to the points limit decrease, hopefully he'll profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Can’t see Clubs touching Wilson Dean with a barge pole on that average. They'd be silly too that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 riders confirmed and I’m still not sure what I think, we need a big hitter but I’m not sure who it will be Wilson dean is a big no no for me so I’m not going to be critical yet or jumping through hoops either god I’m going to get splinters the amount of time I’ll spend sitting on the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, mc131 said: He definitely isn't worth a punt, waste of any points available signing him. Whys that mc131? You never know he might be a revelation.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, magnus said: Whys that mc131? You never know he might be a revelation.. Because he ain't a no1 far from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Ben91 said: They don’t give out prizes based on who uses the most of the team building limit at the start of the season. Wilson-Dean is pony. Anyone who signs him on that average would just be writing off their season before a wheel is turned. I know that all too well I do have a big soft spot for Plymouth, so I'm pretty sad to see the team they're putting together, it's just not going to be good enough, but I guess they're making the most of what they have. 1. 8.21 Left 2. Dan Thompson 4.86 3. Alfie Bowtell 4.49 4. Kyle Newman 5.51 5. Ben Barker 7.42 6. Jacob Hook 4.00 7. Joe Thompson 3.51 Positives: good reserves compared to the rest of the league, if the likes of Alfie and the Thompsons kick on in a weaker league, will have a good middle order Negatives: No top end power whatsoever (other than Barker at home) Hope Plymouth can find a 15 point man on a 8.21 average... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, mc131 said: Because he ain't a no1 far from it. Maybe not a No 1, but could possibly slot in at a different position. Just a thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Steve Worrall's not been confirmed anywhere else yet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, magnus said: Maybe not a No 1, but could possibly slot in at a different position. Just a thought.. He would start at No1 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, magnus said: Maybe not a No 1, but could possibly slot in at a different position. Just a thought.. Only if they don’t want to have a chance of winning anything. The side so far doesn’t look as bad as it’s being made out to be. There’s certainly hope/scope for improvement from all of the bottom four. Having the right number one is important though. Buying Ben Morley for the price of Scott Nicholls isn’t the answer and that’s what’s being rumoured. Edited December 13, 2023 by Ben91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Bwd has been on a bike as recent as September winning U.S open beating the likes of broc nicol and Dylan ruml in their own back yard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 22 hours ago, szkocjasid said: The problem is, I don't think they would have two strong reserves all year (unless Joe T improves). If they had Bowtell & a 5.00 reserve, I'd say you could cover for lack of heat leader strength, but not when built 1+ points below the limit. 11 hours ago, gmarsbar2 said: Oxford's team is 1 point below the limit and doesn't look weak I would say Oxford are a special case as they have 2 x 2.00 riders who would be above that average, but didn't ride enough matches to gain an average. Plymouth don't have that luxury of riders being on "false" averages if they are below the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 hours ago, DJC said: From the reserves announced so far, Joe T is definitely the strongest no7! Piper, James, Hagon, Trigger, Harrison, McGurk he beats 9/10 for me. Then you will have either Bowtell, Gilkes or Dan T at reserve with him. At home they should be very hard to beat and will take some bettering away too. I agree Joe T is the strongest number 7 so far, but don't think it will be a big enough of a difference to make up for Plymouth's lack of top end. If they had Bowtell, Gilkes or Dan T at reserve with him, I'd have a little more positivity, but Jacob Hook isn't gonna be the top reserve on the league, the aforementioned trip could've been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, lewy said: I would think he is worth a punt on that average as not many riders available . If he struggles could replace later in the season. Coming in .2 under 38 would be good use of pts available BWD would be a terrible signing imo. If he struggles, he wouldn't get an average till they raced 8 of their 16 league matches, season could be over before they have the opportunity to strengthen up. Even then you'd expect the rest of the side to up their averages (teams should rise from 38 to 42) so even if he dropped 2 points, wouldn't mean they had 2 points available to replace him with. I'd go for Matthew Wethers before BWD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Steve Worrall's not been confirmed anywhere else yet!!! Yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 BWD would be an absolutely ridiculous signing. Another season of dross in coming if he signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Steve Worrall's not been confirmed anywhere else yet!!! Rumour has him at Glasgow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Hamster00 said: Yes it does You're hard to please. Oxford the top pairing in the league for heats 13 & 15, 3 solid second strips - two of which are young improving riders and 2 promising 2 point riders. Obviously they could have signed a higher averaged rider somewhere but the promotion have done little wrong so far. I think they'll be near the top of the league. I'd prefer to build a team like that than go with 3 heat leaders and 4 reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 BWD would be a laughable signing!! Surely Plymouth wont be that stupid!! If they sign him they will be last by a long way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: BWD would be a terrible signing imo. If he struggles, he wouldn't get an average till they raced 8 of their 16 league matches, season could be over before they have the opportunity to strengthen up. Even then you'd expect the rest of the side to up their averages (teams should rise from 38 to 42) so even if he dropped 2 points, wouldn't mean they had 2 points available to replace him with. I'd go for Matthew Wethers before BWD. Matthew wethers. Give your head a wobble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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