SteveLyric2 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: I don't get the negativity behind them, they have 7+ averages for a reason, they must be better than 6.00 riders for example. As Sedgmen was better away than at home, he'd be a clever signing for any Champ side imo Exactly! I don't know why Lewy gets so upset with the suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Exactly! I don't know why Lewy gets so upset with the suggestion. I'm not upset, I know it's not going to happen because those riders are going elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike0310 said: Has it been confirmed howarth has gone to Scunthorpe. 100% that Kyle won’t be back at Plymouth and from what I’ve heard neither will Gilles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 hours ago, HGould said: Some harsh reality. Some teams fans will have to learn to accept some speedway is more important than winning speedway. The recent, mid and long term past is littered with clubs who have tried to buy success without the funds to bankroll it and failed. Good intentions no doubt, greedy riders possibly, not enough supporters prepared to turn up definitely. Supporters always blame owners and Promoters and expect winning teams. Normally and with only a few exceptions there is a correlation between supporter base and success or strict spending limits and realism. Poole have massive support in terms of people turning up. Glasgow have massive financial backing Scunthorpe have a great pragmatist who refuses to buy what he cqnt afford. Mark Phillips works incredibly hard, shoulders massive stress, spends more than he probably can. But. You can't make a silk purse of a sows ear. Fans have to be realistic. Speedway is it more important to have it or to win? Or maybe a few hundred more at many Clubs like Brummies and Plymouth could get off their backsides turn off the streaming and support the teams in the flesh... I'm guilty if not supporting as much as I used to but this Autumn has struck home... My club Brummies may not have a track after this season.. So support it whenever possible I will. If plymouth can't build a competitive team. More people need to turn up. Then they at least have a fighting chance. I don't think Plymouth fans think any different in the main. We finished bottom last season and have had a number of tough seasons at this level. The way the fans rally around Mark and the club to invest and keep the club running is nothing short of miraculous. It doesn't mean the fans can't have a view on which riders they want to see compared to means they don't. Your last line is the biggest catch 22 in the sport. You won't get more fans in (on a normal day) unless the product is worth the fee. Does that have to mean you win every week at all costs or that the racing is great, win, lose or draw? In my experience (look at Newport for example) you can go big on your team in the hope it brings more fans in, but rarely does that work, even if you have got a top side. I'd argue that would see the club close within 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I don't get the negativity behind them, they have 7+ averages for a reason, they must be better than 6.00 riders for example. As Sedgmen was better away than at home, he'd be a clever signing for any Champ side imo Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said: Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. Sedgmen rode for Redcar back in 2012. His attitude back then was lousy. Has guested for us. Would never don a Bears race jacket ever again. If I had a say in the matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said: Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! Form?………His attitude is far more concerning than his form……does my box in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! Absolutely not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Great to see all the track and stadium work going on at the Coliseum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I hear what people are saying that we should just be grateful that speedway is still going ahead but desperately hoping that Plymouth have a winning team at home to bring the crowds back in. Not too many heat leaders left that haven’t been signed or linked with other teams, Ben Basso maybe? Edited November 27, 2023 by Marky_Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Catalan said: Absolutely not Yes, think I am on my own with this one lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Marky_Mark said: I hear what people are saying that we should just be grateful that speedway is still going ahead but desperately hoping that Plymouth have a winning team at home to bring the crowds back in. Not too many heat leaders left that haven’t been signed or linked with other teams, Ben Basso maybe? Basso isn't doing Championship otherwise he'd still be at Glasgow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Skidder1 said: Basso isn't doing Championship otherwise he'd still be at Glasgow!! Not quite true from what I’ve heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: Not quite true from what I’ve heard. What? That he's not doing Championship or that he wouldn't be still at Glasgow? Edited November 27, 2023 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: What? That he's not doing Championship or that he's not still at Glasgow? No he’s obviously not at Glasgow as they’ve opted for Harris at number 1 and already stated they won’t be having Brennan or Basso. But I think Glasgow may have jumped the gun by stating that both riders won’t be riding championship as the reason for not having them in their team this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: Not quite true from what I’ve heard. He has stated he will not be riding championship in the UK on the Glasgow website. He said that it was too much with all his other commitments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: No he’s obviously not at Glasgow as they’ve opted for Harris at number 1 and already stated they won’t be having Brennan or Basso. But I think Glasgow may have jumped the gun by stating that both riders won’t be riding championship as the reason for not having them in their team this season. Interview with Ben below on why he won’t be riding Championship next season. Although he may ride championship at some stage but going by his interview it’s a big if. He admits it was down to the burden of travelling and bidding to progress in Poland as the reason for not riding in the Championship next season. He added: “The only reason I’m not riding in the Championship next year is because it’s time to move on. “It’s been too tough travelling so much. It was OK in the beginning but at the end of the season, it didn’t do me any good. Not enough sleeping, I could feel it in my performances as well midway through the year. “I’m only going to ride in one league in the UK next year to help with the travelling. “If I have time and it’s possible, I can still do Championship at some stage. “For me it’s just about leaving the club in a good way. I really have enjoyed my time at Glasgow.” Edited November 27, 2023 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Gazc said: He has stated he will not be riding championship in the UK on the Glasgow website. He said that it was too much with all his other commitments. Ok thanks for correcting me if that’s the case. Any other ideas on heat leaders available for the gladiators? Could they convince someone like Adam Ellis or Keynan Rew to double down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Marky_Mark said: Ok thanks for correcting me if that’s the case. Any other ideas on heat leaders available for the gladiators? Could they convince someone like Adam Ellis or Keynan Rew to double down? Posted above Bens interview on the Glasgow website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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