crescent girl Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 12:12 AM, Diamonds85 said: I would love that, but will he ever actually ride outside of Italy again? Expand He's from Argentina. Italy was just a flag of convenience to let him race in Europe without a visa. Since Brexit, l dunno...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:53 PM, crescent girl said: He's from Argentina. Italy was just a flag of convenience to let him race in Europe without a visa. Since Brexit, l dunno...... Expand I know that. Nico is one of my favourite riders of all time. But from what I'm aware, he's got a really good job and life in Italy and only races there now and wouldn't consider a return elsewhere. Or that is what I last heard a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 5:41 PM, Diamonds85 said: I know that. Nico is one of my favourite riders of all time. But from what I'm aware, he's got a really good job and life in Italy and only races there now and wouldn't consider a return elsewhere. Or that is what I last heard a few years ago. Expand What would his average be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 5:59 PM, lewy said: What would his average be? Expand Is there definitely going to be another heat leader added to the ones already announced? Apart from Barker can’t see many race wins if I’m being totally honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 5:59 PM, lewy said: What would his average be? Expand The last time he rode in the second tier was with Somerset in 2019 where he finished with a 7.82 average. I've lost all touch with the rules of British speedway (much like the organisers it seems) so I'm unsure if he'd be due a reduction for being out for multiple seasons or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/12/2023 at 6:49 PM, Diamonds85 said: The last time he rode in the second tier was with Somerset in 2019 where he finished with a 7.82 average. I've lost all touch with the rules of British speedway (much like the organisers it seems) so I'm unsure if he'd be due a reduction for being out for multiple seasons or not? Expand He hadn't t been out for ANY seasons. He has ridden every season, just not in the UK. So no 8% deductions applicable. Edited December 12, 2023 by arnieg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:53 PM, crescent girl said: He's from Argentina. Italy was just a flag of convenience to let him race in Europe without a visa. Since Brexit, l dunno...... Expand He is but lives in Italy with his Italian wife and young family. He didn''t like travelling before the family came along so I can't see him back now. Would be a great signing on a 7 at Plymouth though. Going with Rowe, Newman and Gilkes as the last 3 with just Barker as a known HL is very risky but would mean 2 strong reserves all year - is that enough to compensate for his 13&15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:48 PM, DJC said: He is but lives in Italy with his Italian wife and young family. He didn''t like travelling before the family came along so I can't see him back now. Would be a great signing on a 7 at Plymouth though. Going with Rowe, Newman and Gilkes as the last 3 with just Barker as a known HL is very risky but would mean 2 strong reserves all year - is that enough to compensate for his 13&15? Expand You can't win meetings if you can't win races. If that was the team, we'd be nowhere near the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:59 PM, torpointfanatic22 said: You can't win meetings if you can't win races. If that was the team, we'd be nowhere near the playoffs Expand Would see Barker and Rowe in the big heats against Harris&Worrall/ King&Wright/ Nicholls&Masters, Lawson&Brennan or the Cooks. Scary thought, especially away from home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 8:19 PM, DJC said: Would see Barker and Rowe in the big heats against Harris&Worrall/ King&Wright/ Nicholls&Masters, Lawson&Brennan or the Cooks. Scary thought, especially away from home Expand Barker beat a good number of those riders to come 3rd in british final and I would back him against any of them at Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:27 PM, arnieg said: He hadn't t been out for ANY seasons. He has ridden every season, just not in the UK. So no 8% deductions applicable. Expand Unless your name's Maciej Janowski? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:59 PM, torpointfanatic22 said: You can't win meetings if you can't win races. If that was the team, we'd be nowhere near the playoffs Expand Technically you can, 15 x 3-3s then a 5-4 "stupidheat" win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:48 PM, DJC said: He is but lives in Italy with his Italian wife and young family. He didn''t like travelling before the family came along so I can't see him back now. Would be a great signing on a 7 at Plymouth though. Going with Rowe, Newman and Gilkes as the last 3 with just Barker as a known HL is very risky but would mean 2 strong reserves all year - is that enough to compensate for his 13&15? Expand The problem is, I don't think they would have two strong reserves all year (unless Joe T improves). If they had Bowtell & a 5.00 reserve, I'd say you could cover for lack of heat leader strength, but not when built 1+ points below the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Thompson really should be a strong reserve up against some of the inexperience named so far. Edited December 12, 2023 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:48 PM, DJC said: He is but lives in Italy with his Italian wife and young family. He didn''t like travelling before the family came along so I can't see him back now. Would be a great signing on a 7 at Plymouth though. Going with Rowe, Newman and Gilkes as the last 3 with just Barker as a known HL is very risky but would mean 2 strong reserves all year - is that enough to compensate for his 13&15? Expand Reading what's been said about team spirit at Plymouth last season by management I can't see Gilkes being back there. Can't see Anders either, how's he going to get from Plymouth on a Saturday night to Poland next day? It's not like riding at a track near a decent Airport.. He'd have a 3 to 4 hour drive at least to Bristol or Birmingham or Luton Re winning heats Strong reserves give good chances in heats 2 and 8 and to a degree 14. Fair enough to be strong in 13 and 15 but if you're losing heat 2 and 8 just as important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 8:48 PM, HGould said: Reading what's been said about team spirit at Plymouth last season by management I can't see Gilkes being back there. Can't see Anders either, how's he going to get from Plymouth on a Saturday night to Poland next day? It's not like riding at a track near a decent Airport.. He'd have a 3 to 4 hour drive at least to Bristol or Birmingham or Luton Re winning heats Strong reserves give good chances in heats 2 and 8 and to a degree 14. Fair enough to be strong in 13 and 15 but if you're losing heat 2 and 8 just as important Expand Team Spirit at Plymouth. Dan Gilkes. Please fill in with the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 8:42 PM, szkocjasid said: The problem is, I don't think they would have two strong reserves all year (unless Joe T improves). If they had Bowtell & a 5.00 reserve, I'd say you could cover for lack of heat leader strength, but not when built 1+ points below the limit. Expand Oxford's team is 1 point below the limit and doesn't look weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 8:48 PM, HGould said: Reading what's been said about team spirit at Plymouth last season by management I can't see Gilkes being back there. Can't see Anders either, how's he going to get from Plymouth on a Saturday night to Poland next day? It's not like riding at a track near a decent Airport.. He'd have a 3 to 4 hour drive at least to Bristol or Birmingham or Luton Re winning heats Strong reserves give good chances in heats 2 and 8 and to a degree 14. Fair enough to be strong in 13 and 15 but if you're losing heat 2 and 8 just as important Expand Gilkes has a squad place in Polish Div.2 so would rule out Saturdays at Plymouth. Rowe doesn't just u24 league place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redflag Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Jacob Hook is the Gladiators 5th signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 8:30 PM, lewy said: Barker beat a good number of those riders to come 3rd in british final and I would back him against any of them at Plymouth. Expand He did and will put on a decent show and can't knock his effort. But, he hasn't been very trustworthy to see out a full season of late On 12/12/2023 at 8:42 PM, szkocjasid said: The problem is, I don't think they would have two strong reserves all year (unless Joe T improves). If they had Bowtell & a 5.00 reserve, I'd say you could cover for lack of heat leader strength, but not when built 1+ points below the limit. Expand From the reserves announced so far, Joe T is definitely the strongest no7! Piper, James, Hagon, Trigger, Harrison, McGurk he beats 9/10 for me. Then you will have either Bowtell, Gilkes or Dan T at reserve with him. At home they should be very hard to beat and will take some bettering away too. On 12/12/2023 at 8:48 PM, HGould said: Reading what's been said about team spirit at Plymouth last season by management I can't see Gilkes being back there. Can't see Anders either, how's he going to get from Plymouth on a Saturday night to Poland next day? It's not like riding at a track near a decent Airport.. He'd have a 3 to 4 hour drive at least to Bristol or Birmingham or Luton Re winning heats Strong reserves give good chances in heats 2 and 8 and to a degree 14. Fair enough to be strong in 13 and 15 but if you're losing heat 2 and 8 just as important Expand Agree on Rowe - just going off the rumours on here that they are the final three. The way other teams have shaped up so far, I'm not sure where else those two would go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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