Catalan Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, SSL84 said: That's true but the coc cannot tell the referee when it will be grading only team managers and the track curator can also. Hopefully that clear's that up? He can I assure you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, weatherman said: Not correct. The ref asks the Clerk of the Course when you are grading and when interval is. That I know as fact having assisted many a time. As a current clerk of the course I can inform you this is all sorted at a pre meeting discussion . The referee runs the meeting, and track grading is sorted between the ref, the team managers and the track curator . Team managers, riders etc can ASK for track grades during a meeting at any time, this occurred on Friday, but it’s upto the ref if he allows it. Some tracks don’t have intervals , Redcar being one of them. Im sure every Clerk has his own club protocol to discuss with a referee before a meeting. Edited October 8, 2023 by KK62 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, KK62 said: As a current clerk of the course I can inform you this is all sorted at a pre meeting discussion . The referee runs the meeting, and track grading is sorted between the ref, the team managers and the track curator . Team managers, riders etc can ASK for track grades during a meeting at any time, this occurred on Friday, but it’s upto the ref if he allows it. Some tracks don’t have intervals , Redcar being one of them. Im sure every Clerk has his own club protocol to discuss with a referee before a meeting. Time to come clean. As a clerk of the course I seek advice from team managers but I tell track curator and ref when we grade. It's not set in stone but it's a democratic discussion as to when and where we have them. Interval as well can also tell you the promoter has a say in this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK62 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, weatherman said: Time to come clean. As a clerk of the course I seek advice from team managers but I tell track curator and ref when we grade. It's not set in stone but it's a democratic discussion as to when and where we have them. Interval as well can also tell you the promoter has a say in this as well. Wow! I wouldn’t even imagine telling my track curator ( Jonathan ) when to do his job ! and I don’t seek advice from team managers either . The Ref is in charge and the promoter tells me what he would like to happen. I wouldn’t be in the role long if I told them their jobs ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, KK62 said: Wow! I wouldn’t even imagine telling my track curator ( Jonathan ) when to do his job ! and I don’t seek advice from team managers either . The Ref is in charge and the promoter tells me what he would like to happen. I wouldn’t be in the role long if I told them their jobs ! Haha I'm lucky the promoter and track curator all sing from some sheet do I just do the telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Been to Redcar enough times to notice when they are losing the tractors come out more. I prefer minimum delay, let tracks evolve and only grade if really necessary. At the EWR, track grader is the promoter, owner and often team manager as well as BSP Chairman! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, scunny1 said: Been to Redcar enough times to notice when they are losing the tractors come out more. I prefer minimum delay, let tracks evolve and only grade if really necessary. At the EWR, track grader is the promoter, owner and often team manager as well as BSP Chairman! Then you need to go to spec savers as they go out the same amount of times every meeting unless requested. We all know who and what happens at Scunthorpe and you forgot centre green announcer slash ref berator and part time sit in track protestor. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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