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Redcar v Scunthorpe KO Cup Semi Final (2nd Leg) 06/10/23


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29 minutes ago, StevePark said:

Yeah, great idea.  De-value the sport even further and short change the fans even more. :rolleyes:

To be fair, they probably need to do something with the averages (remove loopholes for a start).

Robert Lambert has a 9.6 average from 6 meetings and he is guesting for a rider on 8.6 (Tai 8.47 from 8 meetings).

You also have Tarasenko on a 6.9 average for Peterborough joining the championship on a 5 average.

These 2 moves could win the leagues in both divisions.

 

Back to the meeting and looking good for Scunthorpe to progress.

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2 hours ago, StevePark said:

Yeah, great idea.  De-value the sport even further and short change the fans even more. :rolleyes:

Maybe not a bad idea as numerous times this season teams have been stronger when they have had injuries and brought in guests. Horses for courses. I can't think of any other sport where a team suffering several injuries are stronger apart from speedway. 

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Seemed everyone was struggling with second bend. Several riders going into it and virtually stopping to get the bike turned. Tractors did their 26 laps up to heat 13, spoiling the flow of the meeting as usual at the STMP.  Well done Scorpions you did us proud, just the Pirates left to beat to  finish the season off in style- A big ask but who knows over 30 heats?

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6 hours ago, scunny1 said:

Seemed everyone was struggling with second bend. Several riders going into it and virtually stopping to get the bike turned. Tractors did their 26 laps up to heat 13, spoiling the flow of the meeting as usual at the STMP.  Well done Scorpions you did us proud, just the Pirates left to beat to  finish the season off in style- A big ask but who knows over 30 heats?

that is so true, tractors seem to be out to much, and im not convinced they actually did any good with the track as it was last night,saying that a night at Redcar is always a decent one, stadium and track are tip top

Looking forward to a few trips up there again next year already

Great performance by Scunny on the night

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Just now, scorpion61 said:

after that masterclass you’d have big super simon over anyone. He did lawson and flint in 15 like they were stood still. Even carried on for a rare, dodgy wheelie which topped off the masterclass! 

TBH Simon has had one, if not his best season ever, which is great to see. He's "stuck at it" when others might have been tempted to "chuck it in". 

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Just now, StevePark said:

TBH Simon has had one, if not his best season ever, which is great to see. He's "stuck at it" when others might have been tempted to "chuck it in". 

he attacked bends 1&2 which not many of them were doing and it payed off. Best season of his career!

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11 hours ago, scunny1 said:

Seemed everyone was struggling with second bend. Several riders going into it and virtually stopping to get the bike turned. Tractors did their 26 laps up to heat 13, spoiling the flow of the meeting as usual at the STMP.  Well done Scorpions you did us proud, just the Pirates left to beat to  finish the season off in style- A big ask but who knows over 30 heats?

Tractors only went out at Scunthorpe riders requests but let’s not spoil the flow of a meeting to keep you happy and your riders unhappy.

Best team won, good luck at Poole.

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In my opinion we have not had a good track since the last meeting before the CLRC. This is not knocking the track staff or the club, it is the weather we have had leading up to the meetings or on the day. We have used covers, graded dirt off, put dirt on etc and the track has not been its usual self. Off the top of my head:

CLRC- rain before hand

Glasgow- rained off after 12

Oxford- rained before start

Glasgow-rained most of week before 

Scunthorpe- poured down Thursday

Not looking to make an excuse for preparation, just had a bad throw of the dice weather wise. 

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1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Tractors only went out at Scunthorpe riders requests but let’s not spoil the flow of a meeting to keep you happy and your riders unhappy.

Best team won, good luck at Poole.

Isn't it the home riders or manager/promoter that gets to change the track or the referee if he feels that the track is unsafe?

Didn't you have a meeting early season due to the track being too soft & spongy(weather related). 

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2 hours ago, Biffa said:

In my opinion we have not had a good track since the last meeting before the CLRC. This is not knocking the track staff or the club, it is the weather we have had leading up to the meetings or on the day. We have used covers, graded dirt off, put dirt on etc and the track has not been its usual self. Off the top of my head:

CLRC- rain before hand

Glasgow- rained off after 12

Oxford- rained before start

Glasgow-rained most of week before 

Scunthorpe- poured down Thursday

Not looking to make an excuse for preparation, just had a bad throw of the dice weather wise. 

That’s why theses fixtures should have been raced earlier in the season when tracks are drier and can be worked on 

9 team s in a league , BSN series and knockout cup fixtures and still riding in mid October is crazy

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6 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

Isn't it the home riders or manager/promoter that gets to change the track or the referee if he feels that the track is unsafe?

Didn't you have a meeting early season due to the track being too soft & spongy(weather related). 

Anybody, rider, team or managers can REQUEST a track grade, it’s upto the Ref if he allows it.

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10 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

No, The CoC is just the referees assistant and pits coordinator, he/she has no power to require a track grade, he/ she would merely pass any requests to the ref.

Not correct. The ref asks the Clerk of the Course when you are grading and when interval is.

That I know as fact having assisted many a time.

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1 hour ago, weatherman said:

Not correct. The ref asks the Clerk of the Course when you are grading and when interval is.

That I know as fact having assisted many a time.

That's true but the coc cannot tell the referee when it will be grading only team managers and the track curator can also. Hopefully that clear's that up? 

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