AceBelle Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:17 PM, Happy Hunter said: If its rained off tomorrow then neither team wins! Expand Leicester will be named Champions due to the fact they finished top of the league if it's rained off ? looking at weather f/cast looks very likely !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:17 PM, iainb said: About as hollow as Poole's Jubilee Trophy victory would have been Expand I assume the Jubilee Trophy will now be awarded to Leicester! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:29 PM, Skidder1 said: Because if the home club fails to run its home leg, they forfeit the tie! Rules is rules! Expand The rules are gash then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 When Leicester lost at Peterborough on 7 September, their Premiership season was over. No more Premiership meetings. When Leicester Cubs won at Belle Vue on 8 September and defeated Workington at home on 9 September it meant Belle Vue could no longer make the NDL play-off, so the final would be Leicester v Oxford. From that point (9 September) Leicester had to run a play-off final.... 1 meeting.... 52 days to do it in... over 7 weeks..... nearly 2 months of a 7 month season left.... How the hell did they fail? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:58 PM, PotteringAround said: When Leicester lost at Peterborough on 7 September, their Premiership season was over. No more Premiership meetings. When Leicester Cubs won at Belle Vue on 8 September and defeated Workington at home on 9 September it meant Belle Vue could no longer make the NDL play-off, so the final would be Leicester v Oxford. From that point (9 September) Leicester had to run a play-off final.... 1 meeting.... 52 days to do it in... over 7 weeks..... nearly 2 months of a 7 month season left.... How the hell did they fail? Expand Don't forget it takes two to tango! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:58 PM, PotteringAround said: When Leicester lost at Peterborough on 7 September, their Premiership season was over. No more Premiership meetings. When Leicester Cubs won at Belle Vue on 8 September and defeated Workington at home on 9 September it meant Belle Vue could no longer make the NDL play-off, so the final would be Leicester v Oxford. From that point (9 September) Leicester had to run a play-off final.... 1 meeting.... 52 days to do it in... over 7 weeks..... nearly 2 months of a 7 month season left.... How the hell did they fail? Expand Don't forget Mildenhall won their KO Cup semi-final on 16th April.... Workington staged their home leg of the KO Cup semi-final against Leicester on 8th July.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:58 PM, PotteringAround said: When Leicester lost at Peterborough on 7 September, their Premiership season was over. No more Premiership meetings. When Leicester Cubs won at Belle Vue on 8 September and defeated Workington at home on 9 September it meant Belle Vue could no longer make the NDL play-off, so the final would be Leicester v Oxford. From that point (9 September) Leicester had to run a play-off final.... 1 meeting.... 52 days to do it in... over 7 weeks..... nearly 2 months of a 7 month season left.... How the hell did they fail? Expand Don't forget Mildenhall won their KO Cup semi-final on 16th April.... Workington staged their home leg of the KO Cup semi-final against Leicester on 8th July.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:58 PM, PotteringAround said: When Leicester lost at Peterborough on 7 September, their Premiership season was over. No more Premiership meetings. When Leicester Cubs won at Belle Vue on 8 September and defeated Workington at home on 9 September it meant Belle Vue could no longer make the NDL play-off, so the final would be Leicester v Oxford. From that point (9 September) Leicester had to run a play-off final.... 1 meeting.... 52 days to do it in... over 7 weeks..... nearly 2 months of a 7 month season left.... How the hell did they fail? Expand Same as every season ,they couldn’t run a raffle.Think next season they will announce that the season will start on the 1st Jan and end 31st Dec . Weather permitting.(just in case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 6:57 PM, iainb said: The whole idea of the play offs is to build the season to a crescendo and far too often recently it builds to frustration and ultimately chaos without the firm scheduling of Tv contracts to work to. It's time to abandon play offs unfortunately for anything other than the top league where Tv demands it Expand For me the play offs should be a separate competition, finish top of the league then your the league champions as it used to be but then you could have the playoff championship to win a separate trophy. Top four teams again same rules as now but for the playoff trophy. Teams would still be looking to finish in the top four BUT there would be more incentive to fight harder to finish in number one position and win that League Champions Trophy and then do battle with the three other teams all wanting that title of Playoff Champions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 gonna tiddle down tonight from 7 ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 1:12 PM, ruckerroo said: gonna tiddle down tonight from 7 ish Expand It's the "ish" that is critical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) On 10/31/2023 at 12:50 PM, tonyd said: For me the play offs should be a separate competition, finish top of the league then your the league champions as it used to be but then you could have the playoff championship to win a separate trophy. Top four teams again same rules as now but for the playoff trophy. Teams would still be looking to finish in the top four BUT there would be more incentive to fight harder to finish in number one position and win that League Champions Trophy and then do battle with the three other teams all wanting that title of Playoff Champions. Expand Seem to remember that happened in 2015 in the NL when Eastbourne weren't league champions, can't remember who actually won the league, but they were crowned League champions, but Eastie won a thing called the Gold Cup which had a semi final and final played out by the top 4. Happened one season and was dumped. Although if it been the playoffs we'd have 'won' the league, it did seem the correct way running a league and having proper league champions who performed best across the whole season. Edited October 31, 2023 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 12:50 PM, tonyd said: For me the play offs should be a separate competition, finish top of the league then your the league champions as it used to be but then you could have the playoff championship to win a separate trophy. Top four teams again same rules as now but for the playoff trophy. Teams would still be looking to finish in the top four BUT there would be more incentive to fight harder to finish in number one position and win that League Champions Trophy and then do battle with the three other teams all wanting that title of Playoff Champions. Expand On 10/31/2023 at 3:49 PM, gazzac said: Seem to remember that happened in 2015 in the NL when Eastbourne weren't league champions ( can't remember who actually won the league) but who were crowned League champions, but Eastie won a thing called the Gold Cup which had a semi final and final played out by the top 4. Happened one season and was dumped, although seemed to work ok. Expand As there is zero incentive to win the league other than saying you've won the league and the only perceived benefit of winning the league for a rider is extra meetings, then you're probably on to something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Sadly, the more the BSPA try to give the leagues and cup competitions credibility, the less it actually does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblywheel Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 So, once again the Oxford promotion is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Personally, I can't see this getting past 4 heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Any live updates from this one tonight? I'm curious to see if they get past a track inspection. Looking at the rainfall radar for the area I can't see this even starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 6:12 PM, Bunce said: Any live updates from this one tonight? I'm curious to see if they get past a track inspection. Looking at the rainfall radar for the area I can't see this even starting. Expand Speedway Live updates.... https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/22223/oxford-leicester-ndl-final-2023?page=1&scrollTo=453234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Well hopefully everyone is happy the meeting has been run now, right? Only one rider carted off injured but at least we got a result, yes? Sickening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 9:31 PM, 40-38 said: Well hopefully everyone is happy the meeting has been run now, right? Only one rider carted off injured but at least we got a result, yes? Sickening. Expand A travesty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 9:35 PM, Happy Hunter said: A travesty! Expand Just read this on Max Perry's facebook page. " Just to update. Max is in a bad way. He is talking. Broken wrist, broken fingers, suspected broken ribs, knee, ankle, leg. Off to John Radcliffe he is On Morphine and IV pain relief. " Hope he can get well soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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