old bob at herne bay Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Anyone have any news on the league structure in UK speedway 2024? In the PL we have 2 teams gone ..... lots of steam from the possible Brandon revival. In the CL things seems to be in rude health - but for a shortage of quality riders. In the NDL question marks must be over the viability of at least a few clubs with so few fixtures now being staged. With the " most important Promoters' Conference in the history of the sport in the UK" to occur next month, I see no news of any forthcoming plans. Head in the sand by the BSPA ? or maybe they have a cunning plan :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Anyone have any news on the league structure in UK speedway 2024? In the PL we have 2 teams gone ..... lots of steam from the possible Brandon revival. In the CL things seems to be in rude health - but for a shortage of quality riders. In the NDL question marks must be over the viability of at least a few clubs with so few fixtures now being staged. With the " most important Promoters' Conference in the history of the sport in the UK" to occur next month, I see no news of any forthcoming plans. Head in the sand by the BSPA ? or maybe they have a cunning plan :-) Just as a matter of interest. How many meetings have you been to over all three leagues this season ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted October 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 As a mater of interest ..... 0 nada. and the season 2022 0 nada. Last meeting I attended was at Sittingbourne 2021. Before that Eastbourne. Before that Lakeside. Hope that helps you answer my questions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Every year its the most important for the sport, however there won't be any major shake up as the promoters are in it for themselves not the sport apart from a select few Oxford or Birmingham to move up Workington potentially to move up NDL will likely struggle so something will need to be done there Most things are already agreed for 2024 next month just rubber stamps things, expect minimal changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Anyone have any news on the league structure in UK speedway 2024? In the PL we have 2 teams gone ..... lots of steam from the possible Brandon revival. In the CL things seems to be in rude health - but for a shortage of quality riders. In the NDL question marks must be over the viability of at least a few clubs with so few fixtures now being staged. With the " most important Promoters' Conference in the history of the sport in the UK" to occur next month, I see no news of any forthcoming plans. Head in the sand by the BSPA ? or maybe they have a cunning plan :-) BSPA will bury their heads in the sand then wonder why there are only 5 teams registered for the top league come March, then they may do something at that point when it’s far too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: As a mater of interest ..... 0 nada. and the season 2022 0 nada. Last meeting I attended was at Sittingbourne 2021. Before that Eastbourne. Before that Lakeside. Hope that helps you answer my questions ? I thought that would be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Every year its the most important for the sport, however there won't be any major shake up as the promoters are in it for themselves not the sport apart from a select few Oxford or Birmingham to move up Workington potentially to move up NDL will likely struggle so something will need to be done there Most things are already agreed for 2024 next month just rubber stamps things, expect minimal changes For me the NDL needs to be scrapped in favour of compulsory running of 2nd half junior matches, a protected place for a "junior" rider position in a reserve berth of the senior team, with the same reserve also competing in the junior match. Those teams that run exclusively in the NDL to go CL or NORA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 I can’t see anything other than the creation of one league; no more Premiership and Championship because the volume of clubs simply isn’t there. Supporting a Premiership team this season must have been a nightmare for variety, playing the same teams every four or so weeks. Can you imagine that in a five-man league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 I just think it will be the same structure with one team moving up to prem. That's it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 It will be a different year, but the same old schitte,, with many rules bent and twisted 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Baldyman said: It will be a different year, but the same old schitte,, with many rules bent and twisted Those in charge had the opportunity following the pandemic to make some serious changes but they failed to get a grip and as usual it stumbles from one year to the next with the same old crap. Why can’t those who own clubs and rarely make a decent return recognise that the current set up is not working nor does it or will it attract new fans and is doomed to fail without some serious changes. The club owners have collectively not done anything to stop fans deserting in droves over the last decade and still does not even register as a pimple on the arse of the media who frankly turned their collective backs on the sport a long while back and even local coverage is tailing off. I don’t think anyone on this forum can understand the attitude of the powers that be and given these owners are the custodians of the sport, if they are unwilling to protect its interests, can they publicly explain why and why they have managed to drag the sport down to the level that it finds itself in. Not one of those promoters/owners who run clubs have the balls to come on here and explain why they have allowed the sport to almost reach its nadir. If they cannot cope with a forum use the Speedway Star to enter into a debate and explain their collective rationale and before anyone says the owners are not solely to blame and riders have an impact, yes that is true but they are employees and could be managed but again the clubs do not deal with the issues because they are ineffective managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Brummies moving up workington moving up hopefully no NDL sadly that’s my thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Brummies moving up workington moving up hopefully no NDL sadly that’s my thinking Hasnt the Brummies future been in doubt for a while now,,, and if Worky move all the way up that's fantastic,,, another excellent track. The biggest issue is do these teams have big enough fan bases to absorb the extra costs,, Edited October 1, 2023 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Hasnt the Brummies future been in doubt for a while now,,, and if Worky move all the way up that's fantastic,,, another excellent track. The biggest issue is do these teams have big enough fan bases to absorb the extra costs,, Worky going into champ I mean. brummies can only race on Mondays next season I think the team building average will be raised to so we see better teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 I believe that at a recent fans forum at Birmingham, the fans were told that there is an 80% probability that Birmingham will run next season, and if they do it will be in the Premiership as the only available race night will be Monday. They also said that there was a 20% chance that they will not run at all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 As a worky fan I just hope we have some speedway to watch, the NDL looks to only have a couple of teams that may run, Imo the comets need another year before they may be able to move up, only able to run afternoon meetings at weekends, no lighting at the moment, so if they move up you have the extra costs of the new league plus cost of lighting, so imo not viable unfortunately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Just listened to the Birmingham speedway podcast. Pretty much confirms that Birmingham will be in the prem next year and riders are already approaching the club. 80 % likely Brimingham will run next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, DiveBomb said: Just listened to the Birmingham speedway podcast. Pretty much confirms that Birmingham will be in the prem next year and riders are already approaching the club. 80 % likely Brimingham will run next year. And 99% them not seeing the season out! Madness! They were on the brink in the CL. They must think they're going to pick up Wolves punters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, iainb said: And 99% them not seeing the season out! Madness! They were on the brink in the CL. They must think they're going to pick up Wolves punters He said hopes for a few hundred from wolves which I think is a big ask. He also likes the idea of sponsorship on the TV along with the TV money as well. He didn't have a choice really and I completely agree I still don't think it will work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, iainb said: And 99% them not seeing the season out! Madness! They were on the brink in the CL. They must think they're going to pick up Wolves punters I haven't been to Birmingham for quite some time, but I do remember that the viewing outside was awful and not particulaly enjoyable. Not meant as a criticism, just an observation, they like Wolves have to make do with what they've got. In terms of Wolves fans, well, it does make you think. Wolves were closed in 1982 and 1983 and I went to 1 speedway meeting and that was at Birmingham, that despite the fact that Hans Nielsen rode there after Wolves and I was a big fan of his. Of course I might be an exception, but when it's not your own team its just not the same, fans of closed tracks tend to melt away....................................................... Even if Wolves come back later at an out of town location I do wonder how many fans will make the effort. Currently I can walk to the track, so my view may be skewed. Having said I have been a fan though since 1967 I would definitley give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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