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46 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

It's a strange situation. Normally a council would be passive about these developments. It could just be that there was some blame shifting going on, with the land owner not wanting to be seen as being "pushy", so putting the blame onto the council in conversation. It's all so easy blaming someone else who isn't in a position to answer back if it makes you appear to be the good guy.

Bear in mind that the Council OFFICERS who process planning applications are not the same thing as the local councillors. The local councillors will swing to where they will pick up most votes, that's their job. We also have to remember that these councillors also originally opposed the reintroduction of speedway into Perry Barr, so don't expect any huge loyalty from them. The local councillors are LibDems who are often kept in the dark by the ruling LABOUR Council, so this planning application came as much of a shock to them as it did to anyone else.

There's also the Perry Barr 2040 Plan to consider, if anyone has the first idea of what stage of its consultation process it is currently at.   https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50253/perry_barr_regeneration/2388/perry_barr_2040_a_vision_for_legacy 
That plan has a stated aim of opening up access to the River Tame, so redeveloping the stadium according to the plans submitted will fit in with that. On the other hand, the plan states the desire to "make opportunities for place activation, cultural, heritage and other activities which create a vibrant place", for which the retention of the stadium would be ideal.

Maybe with the council also now being technically bankrupt, they see the processing of a Planning Application and the fees that they charge for it, the income would be welcomed. Receiving income in the way of Planning Application Fees and actually GRANTING planning permission though, those are two different things. 

I don't think he would start offering/talking about 10 year lease just to appear like the good guy. These developers will sit on land for years till they are prepared to build on it, Birmingham council on the other hand are desperate for more income.

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22 hours ago, eric i said:

I don't think he would start offering/talking about 10 year lease just to appear like the good guy. These developers will sit on land for years till they are prepared to build on it, Birmingham council on the other hand are desperate for more income.

Possibly, but I don't think that the £4k - £5K that processing a planning application will earn them will be that significant in the global scheme of things. But who knows?

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3 minutes ago, BuxtonTiger said:

So will the under 19 final be on the 25th

That would be nice. By age, some of the riders hardly qualify now.

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3 minutes ago, False dawn said:

That would be nice. By age, some of the riders hardly qualify now.

Sorry people. Sarcasm is perhaps not called for. I've no idea of the difficulties that Birmingham have had re-staging this event.
I just want to see the competitors on track racing for, what is to them, an important achievement in their careers. I've become a big fan of the youth arm of our sport. I've learnt a little, just how difficult it is for young riders to break into an expensive career. And putting "U19 / U21 champion" in your CV is a big thing.
I really hope this meeting doesn't fall off the end of the fixture list.

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On 10/10/2023 at 2:50 PM, brianbuck said:

Alan Grahame Memorial Meeting due to be staged tomorrow  night 11th October has been postponed due to a poor weather forecast, and will now be staged next Wednesday 18th October at 7.30pm

 

Any team line ups for this? Is it a junior meeting?

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On 10/10/2023 at 2:50 PM, brianbuck said:

Alan Grahame Memorial Meeting due to be staged tomorrow  night 11th October has been postponed due to a poor weather forecast, and will now be staged next Wednesday 18th October at 7.30pm

Looking at the weather forecast, (which is not good) will the Alan Grahame meeting plough on come hell or high water or will everything be pushed back another week, or will it take place on the week after the u-19's Final?

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So is it definitely a done deal that Birmingham are moving up to the premiership? If so I think it’s a crazy decision personally all they’ve done is complain they don’t get numbers through the gate as it is so they decide to move up a league where rider wages will be more expensive than in the championship… if they are banking on getting a few hundred fans from wolves then that’s such a risky strategy I hope it works out for them but I personally can’t see it ending well at all.

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1 hour ago, bloom89 said:

So is it definitely a done deal that Birmingham are moving up to the premiership? If so I think it’s a crazy decision personally all they’ve done is complain they don’t get numbers through the gate as it is so they decide to move up a league where rider wages will be more expensive than in the championship… if they are banking on getting a few hundred fans from wolves then that’s such a risky strategy I hope it works out for them but I personally can’t see it ending well at all.

Well if the rumoured new No 1 signing comes of it will 

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33 minutes ago, bloom89 said:

 

But whatever you paid those which wouldn’t be cheap would you get the extra fans in to cover those riders alone?

TV money!

Its not Brummies choice to go Premiership. They only have Mondays as their race day in 2024, so it has to be Premiership with the Phil Morris sweetener!

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