Deano Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 With the land unused why aren’t Reading fans badgering the council to force the owners to get themselves up and running again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deano said: With the land unused why aren’t Reading fans badgering the council to force the owners to get themselves up and running again? The council provided land and granted planning permission - realistically what more could they have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, arnieg said: The council provided land and granted planning permission - realistically what more could they have done? Why no speedway then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Deano said: Why no speedway then? Two words: Gaming International 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, arnieg said: Two words: Gaming International There's that man again! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, arnieg said: Two words: Gaming International Yeah exactly read my first post. Why don’t Reading fans bombard the council. Get these money rich controlling, elderly, cantankerous men out of dictating what goes on in our towns and cities. This isn’t Victorian Britain. Edited September 30, 2023 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deano said: Yeah exactly read my first post. Why don’t Reading fans bombard the council. Get these money rich controlling, elderly, cantankerous men out of dictating what goes on in our towns and cities. I don't understand exactly what more you want the council to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Deano said: Yeah exactly read my first post. Why don’t Reading fans bombard the council. Get these money rich controlling, elderly, cantankerous men out of dictating what goes on in our towns and cities. This isn’t Victorian Britain. Where have you been, councils have no money to build stadia and as they own the land unfortunately that’s it. Edited September 30, 2023 by Toady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Toady said: Where have you been, councils have no money to build stadia That’s not what I’m getting at. These guys are dictating our sport. It needs a promoter and fans to request the council force the hand of these owners to hand this land over for commercial use again. If I was rich enough and bought the whole of Reading and forced everyone out homeless would the council allow me to do it. It seems they would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Sorry I edited my post as you were posting I believe the council own the land 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Councils need money, I’m sure they’d welcome the business rates they are missing out on. Perhaps fans don’t want it enough I don’t know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Deano said: Councils need money, I’m sure they’d welcome the business rates they are missing out on. Perhaps fans don’t want it enough I don’t know. I am sure there are plenty of fans would like to see the return of Reading and I know for sure there are at Swindon but unlike at Oxford and Coventry they unfortunately have not got an organised campaign group needed to keep up the pressure and find a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Toady said: I am sure there are plenty of fans would like to see the return of Reading and I know for sure there are at Swindon but unlike at Oxford and Coventry they unfortunately have not got an organised campaign group needed to keep up the pressure and find a solution. Shame really. After watching the Rugby Council YouTube channel on Brandon Estates appeal, there’s loads of minuted evidence to prove Gaming International (through Clark Osborne) are not what their company name makes them out to be. I think the council have grounds to cancel the long term lease as tax payers are not getting value for money and GI are not satisfying the Reading voters demand for motorsports (if needed enough). GI should not be allowed to hold Racers fans and the council to ransom, especially after giving evidence on behalf of BE. It’s the straw that’s broke the camels back. Edited October 1, 2023 by Deano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWellBehavedWorrall Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Is ‘Gaming International’ the holding company that owns Reading speedway? I visited Smallmead a few times - I can still hear the stadium announcer shouting “The Smallmead Bullet… Daaave Mullett!” - and really enjoyed the racing, so I was disappointed to hear they had ceased to exist a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, Deano said: Shame really. After watching the Rugby Council YouTube channel on Brandon Estates appeal, there’s loads of minuted evidence to prove Gaming International (through Clark Osborne) are not what their company name makes them out to be. I think the council have grounds to cancel the long term lease as tax payers are not getting value for money and GI are not satisfying the Reading voters demand for motorsports (if needed enough). GI should not be allowed to hold Racers fans and the council to ransom, especially after giving evidence on behalf of BE. It’s the straw that’s broke the camels back. There is no long term lease - Some time in the 90s Bill Dore surrendered it to the council and it was extinguished (or he failed to comply with it, and the council revoked it - take your pick). Speedway occupied the site under a series of short (7 year?) leases, the last of which expired in 2008. Option on the new site expired and speedway ceased to be part of council's plans for redeveloping the area. The land was there, the money wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, arnieg said: There is no long term lease - Some time in the 90s Bill Dore surrendered it to the council and it was extinguished (or he failed to comply with it, and the council revoked it - take your pick). Speedway occupied the site under a series of short (7 year?) leases, the last of which expired in 2008. Option on the new site expired and speedway ceased to be part of council's plans for redeveloping the area. The land was there, the money wasn't. So where do GI fit into this? Is this the new site they never had any intentions of building? who leases the old site? Edited October 1, 2023 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deano said: Shame really. After watching the Rugby Council YouTube channel on Brandon Estates appeal, there’s loads of minuted evidence to prove Gaming International (through Clark Osborne) are not what their company name makes them out to be. I think the council have grounds to cancel the long term lease as tax payers are not getting value for money and GI are not satisfying the Reading voters demand for motorsports (if needed enough). GI should not be allowed to hold Racers fans and the council to ransom, especially after giving evidence on behalf of BE. It’s the straw that’s broke the camels back. You’ve got to understand that Gi are just interested in money they do not care or have ever cared about speedway osbourne put a lot of effort into his pitch at rugby because somebody is paying him a lot of cash to do so simple.Just look at the game he played at Swindon !(Gi just walked off back to Swindon) Edited October 1, 2023 by Toady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Toady said: You’ve got to understand that Gi are just interested in money they do not care or have ever cared about speedway osbourne put a lot of effort into his pitch at rugby because somebody is paying him a lot of cash to do so simple.Just look at the game he played at Swindon !(Gi just walked off back to Swindon) We’ve known that all along, but legally we’ve had to assume it. With the events of the past few days minuted it now becomes fact. If it were my track historically, currently or potentially effected by their tactics I’d be calling them out and only the local council can help. Edited October 1, 2023 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, arnieg said: There is no long term lease - Some time in the 90s Bill Dore surrendered it to the council and it was extinguished (or he failed to comply with it, and the council revoked it - take your pick). Speedway occupied the site under a series of short (7 year?) leases, the last of which expired in 2008. Option on the new site expired and speedway ceased to be part of council's plans for redeveloping the area. The land was there, the money wasn't. Which was a travesty because, if I am correct, a 99 year lease was granted initially? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 The site is used for parking for Reading FC home matches. I always thought that on closure Prudential assurance own the land now but have done nothing with it yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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