OveFundinFan Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, fatface said: I don’t think he will win it again. But as a three time champion, he’s earned the benefit of the doubt. I agree, he probably won't win it again, but on form he is well capable off taking positions of Zmarzlik. That gives other capable of winning more of a chance. I don't think Freddie or Leo have much time left either, but both will be capable for a year or two. The new challenge will come from Dan, Jack, and Robert.....but not for a couple of years yet. Edited October 3, 2023 by OveFundinFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, TheReturn said: Wildcards should only ever be reserved for riders who were on target for qualification but injury prevented. If you want the strongest lineup, then that is always likely to include riders who finished outside the Top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: I agree, he probably won't win it again, but on form he is well capable off taking positions of Zmarzlik. That gives other capable of winning more of a chance. I don't think Freddie or Leo have much time left either, but both will be capable for a year or two. The new challenge will come from Dan, Jack, and Robert.....but not for a couple of years yet. I think Jack may be ready next year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: I agree, he probably won't win it again, but on form he is well capable off taking positions of Zmarzlik. That gives other capable of winning more of a chance. I don't think Freddie or Leo have much time left either, but both will be capable for a year or two. The new challenge will come from Dan, Jack, and Robert.....but not for a couple of years yet. Can’t argue with that. Saying Woffinden should be gone is like saying Hamilton and Alonso should be out of F1. All time greats, probably past their best, but still comfortably among the elite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 I’m not a fan of his but I genuinely feel that Fricke has been hard done by. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lioness said: I’m not a fan of his but I genuinely feel that Fricke has been hard done by. He's been disappointing this year, but I have to agree... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Lioness said: I’m not a fan of his but I genuinely feel that Fricke has been hard done by. Max rode at Toruń with a broken wrist. It is alleged he was considering pulling out of the meeting but was informed that would jeopardise his chance of getting a wild card. Fat good that did him. He must be severely irritated by the politics of the organisers including a 28 year old Latvian and a 30 year old German ahead of him. 9th in the World is not good enough for the GPs it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Is there any chance of Emil and Artem riding in the Speedway European Championships? The organisers of that event could put together a great line up. Sayufutdinov Laguta Janowski Kolodziej Thomsen Fricke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Is there any chance of Emil and Artem riding in the Speedway European Championships? The organisers of that event could put together a great line up. Sayufutdinov Laguta Janowski Kolodziej Thomsen Fricke If you think Fricke is an European then you are madder than i thought you were lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grachan Posted October 4, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, racers and royals said: If you think Fricke is an European then you are madder than i thought you were lol I just checked the Eurovision Song Contest website and he definitely is. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Max rode at Toruń with a broken wrist. It is alleged he was considering pulling out of the meeting but was informed that would jeopardise his chance of getting a wild card. Fat good that did him. He must be severely irritated by the politics of the organisers including a 28 year old Latvian and a 30 year old German ahead of him. 9th in the World is not good enough for the GPs it seems. But that's why only the top six 'qualify' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Grachan said: I just checked the Eurovision Song Contest website and he definitely is. Brilliant reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 The worst line up the GP series has seen for some time. It can be as simple as the best 15 riders in the world making up the field plus a wildcard each round. I may as well be riding in the series in Kvech’s place. I’d have as much chance of winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Wee Eck said: Max rode at Toruń with a broken wrist. It is alleged he was considering pulling out of the meeting but was informed that would jeopardise his chance of getting a wild card. Fat good that did him. He must be severely irritated by the politics of the organisers including a 28 year old Latvian and a 30 year old German ahead of him. 9th in the World is not good enough for the GPs it seems. Not qualifying for the GP challenge final from the semifinal, may not have helped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, MARK246 said: Not qualifying for the GP challenge final from the semifinal, may not have helped That's the problem of qualifying rounds. Carry an injury, engine failure and you can be out in the blink of an eye. Happened on the lead up to one off world finals many times. That reality shows having human beings selecting who goes in and who comes out is a reasonable way of getting a GP line up. Problem then is every man and his dog on a forum want there voice heard. The selection committee has heard the call for fresh faces and delivered. Not to everyone's liking...but you asked, you got, suck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: That's the problem of qualifying rounds. Carry an injury, engine failure and you can be out in the blink of an eye. Happened on the lead up to one off world finals many times. That reality shows having human beings selecting who goes in and who comes out is a reasonable way of getting a GP line up. Problem then is every man and his dog on a forum want there voice heard. The selection committee has heard the call for fresh faces and delivered. Not to everyone's liking...but you asked, you got, suck it. No moaning from me, I understand the commercial pressures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 No doubt about it, that line up is the worst I have seen in 25 years. Awful. I actually think bringing back a 24 rider field (22 perm and 2 wild cards per round) with the eliminators would be a good idea now like the late 90s and early 2000s. I dont think anyone would disagree that they were far, far more exciting than what we have at the moment? That line up, along with the current commentary team , will add no excite at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: No moaning from me, I understand the commercial pressures. When it becomes more about commercial considerations and less about sporting achievement (in qualifying) then we the fans, have lost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 17 hours ago, TheReturn said: Not a surprise, but not sure Woffinden deserved another wildcard. It makes a mockery of the sporting contest where you can be selected because your face fits or because of being a world champion five years ago, rather than because you earned the right to be there based off form over the last 12 months. Wildcards should only ever be reserved for riders who were on target for qualification but injury prevented. Not sure about but he is certainly better than the other couple of picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Not sure about but he is certainly better than the other couple of picks. And at least one qualifier, also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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