eric i Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben91 said: I’m not sure what these “advantages” are. He’s just a class above. If Emil and Laguta were back in the series next season he’d be head and shoulders above them too. Emil would probably finish second. Laguta beat him fair and square and is still the undefeated champ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, eric i said: Clowns at the FIM, Russians under a neutral flag will be allowed at the olympics, yet russians are banned from a sport Putin has never heard of. Exactly. Plethora of other sports but cant ride in the SGP. All they are doing is robbing the public. They could also ride under a Polish license but the PZM will refuse this. Again, total BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Jorge Viegas is a snowflake, Get rid of him for the greater good of the sport. GP series means nothing without Emil and Laguta because they're Bartek's only challengers in the entire world when it comes to Speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, TTT said: Jorge Viegas is a snowflake, Get rid of him for the greater good of the sport. hes just a puppet just like all these so called leaders of these federations.they dont make the decisions.we are just made to think they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, DazS said: hes just a puppet just like all these so called leaders of these federations.they dont make the decisions.we are just made to think they do. Well who does make the decisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 we will never know. have we got the name of the person who kicked zmarzlic out.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, DazS said: we will never know. have we got the name of the person who kicked zmarzlic out.? Tony Olson and the rest of the FIM Jury at Vojens. in my view, Zmarzlik’s team we’re trying to be smart, knowingly using the wrong race suit as part of an arrangement to promote one of his sponsors. They perhaps even allowed for the possibility of a fine and had that covered by the sponsor. What they didn’t expect was for the full penalty open to FIM to be imposed. The Zmarzlik team travels with multiple race suits for GPs. All of them comply with the rules. So why was one brought that didn’t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: And this is also true of the GPs. At least everybody rides against the same quality of rider every round. At least everybody rides in the same number of meetings. At least qualification isn't based on where you live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 IMO. the organisation who run the event benefitted, by having it not decided till the last race, do they run the FIM, whos tail is wagging whos dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Tony Olson and the rest of the FIM Jury at Vojens. in my view, Zmarzlik’s team we’re trying to be smart, knowingly using the wrong race suit as part of an arrangement to promote one of his sponsors. They perhaps even allowed for the possibility of a fine and had that covered by the sponsor. What they didn’t expect was for the full penalty open to FIM to be imposed. The Zmarzlik team travels with multiple race suits for GPs. All of them comply with the rules. So why was one brought that didn’t? why do it in the next to last gp.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 It’s easy to think that a rider wearing a non approved suit is something minor and can be “overlooked” with a fine. That may not be the view of the company who probably invested maybe a 6 figure sum to be main sponsor only to be “took out” by some other unpaid advert. Maybe the main sponsor spotted the error and made a complaint…..and who can blame them…….i couldn’t. A 6 figure sum, say 100,000 is just 10,000 per GP, I suspect the fee would be more than 100k, maybe 250k. Not peanuts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, DazS said: why do it in the next to last gp.? Because if BZ captured the world championship at that meeting……which was very likely, then it would have been his sponsor who would be in all the photos….. that’s worth a lot and they had not paid for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 oh yes if he won it at that event all the pictures of him would have come from the qualifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, chunky said: At least everybody rides against the same quality of rider every round. At least everybody rides in the same number of meetings. At least qualification isn't based on where you live. I know what you're saying but wildcards are definitely selected based on ticket sales/geography and I'm sure the organisers are really pleased Vaculik has made the top six this time so that he didn't need yet another wild card Also, federations are allocated places in the qualifiers for the GP challenge route so geography is a part of that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 IF BZ team was involved, IF it had gone unnoticed then BZ would have been wearing a companies name in the photographs.when they were not entitled to. I not saying BZ them was involved, it’s been a suggestion. I just trying to get you to see the situ from a sponsors point of view, a sponsor that’s put in, I reckon, a 6 figure sum. Like all sports sponsors put in lots of money are needed. Without sponsors speedway would be difficult to run. 1 minute ago, DazS said: oh yes if he won it at that event all the pictures of him would have come from the qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, OveFundinFan said: IF BZ team was involved, IF it had gone unnoticed then BZ would have been wearing a companies name in the photographs.when they were not entitled to. I not saying BZ them was involved, it’s been a suggestion. I just trying to get you to see the situ from a sponsors point of view, a sponsor that’s put in, I reckon, a 6 figure sum. Like all sports sponsors put in lots of money are needed. Without sponsors speedway would be difficult to run. no i fully understand the sponsors position, but not to the point when they can make a decision when and where a world title is won. which is why i question the FIM decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 you obviously think it was the right decision, so if he was thrown out in the last round you would stick by your decision. even the sponsors would not allowed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 But the fault BZ was excluded is no one else’s fault but BZ and his team. He put the wrong suit on. It’s not that his sponsors name was just a small patch, sort of 25mmx120mm…… it’s big letters. So BZ didn’t notice, neither did his team of three (or four). I beginning to think like some others…… it’s possible, maybe it was planned and it all went wron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RPNY said: Lol thats is your opinion no more. The last time they were in it one of them beat him. It is but I’m still yet to see any of these so called advantages. 1 hour ago, eric i said: Laguta beat him fair and square and is still the undefeated champ It isn’t boxing. One has improved, the other has regressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 it was planned and it all went right. for the organizers and the sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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