longmeadow Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Who should get a pick for next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Laguta and Sayfutdinov for starters, as they are the only two who have a realistic chance of winning it... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 You're not wrong. But the word coming out of the FIM is that there is almost no chance that they are going to allow the Russians back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, False dawn said: You're not wrong. But the word coming out of the FIM is that there is almost no chance that they are going to allow the Russians back. I have not heard anything, do you have a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, eric i said: I have not heard anything, do you have a source? A premiership promoter, backed up by one of the commentators. Not FIM insiders, I'll grant you. But close to those that will make the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) The GP series without Emil and Artem is pointless. Nobody is going to challenge Zmarzlik. Edited September 30, 2023 by LagutaRacingFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Want: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Sayfutdinov Laguta Expecting: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Fricke Thomsen Zzzzz… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheSmiler said: Want: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Sayfutdinov Laguta Expecting: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Fricke Thomsen Zzzzz… Would possibly swop dudek for kolodziej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, TheSmiler said: Want: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Sayfutdinov Laguta Expecting: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Fricke Thomsen Zzzzz… Surely Fricke will get the pick over Dudek as he finished 7 points in front. It should be... Bewley Woffinden Fricke Sayfutdinov Laguta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Bewley, Doyle, Thomsen. Not Janowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD26 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Noelinho said: Bewley, Doyle, Thomsen. Not Janowski. Doyle is already qualified through the GP challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, TheSmiler said: Want: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Sayfutdinov Laguta Expecting: Bewley Woffinden Dudek Fricke Thomsen Zzzzz… Dudek?????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 The series is boring without Artem & Emil & needs them back. Sick of watching riders just moving out of the way every time Bartosz gets near them. There will always been a doubt if Bartosz would’ve won if Artem & Emil were in it & he knows that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Even with the ban in place, Emil and Artem are both Polish citizens and had already stopped representing Russia in the Speedway of Nations. They should be in it. It undermines Zmarzlik's titles that they are not. It makes no sense. Look at Tennis. Plenty of Russians and Belarussians compete. Wimbledon banned them for one year, had all their points removed, and allowed them in this year. Zmarzlik can never be seen as the best of all time unless they are included, because last time they were in it one of them won it. I'd like to see them in alongside Bewley, Woffinden. Either Fricke or Dudek for the other place - not really bothered which one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 You can find a reason to invalidate most speedway world titles of you look hard enough. Emil removed himself from the series for some of his prime years, invalidating what? A Woffinden title? One of Hancock's? Woffinden was also the primary beneficiary of Ward's indiscretions and ultimate injury arguably. And Doyle. See what I did there? Laguta and Sayfutdinov had their chance to beat Bartosz over a full Ekstraliga season and failed spectacularly once again this year, just as they did last year. Imagine thinking that Rosberg is better than Hamilton because he just about beat him once in one out of 5 seasons. It's the epitomy of stupidity. 7 medals in 8 years for Zmarzlik with or without the Russians. Seriously, I get you all hate him, but you refute facts when making a weak argument and make yourselves look daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beercellar1966 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just a thought. Just spice it up. Throw sayfutanof and laguta back in. 2 proper racers for bartosz. Look at vojens. That was a joke. Sorry my thoughts ( now for the abuse ) las usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Want: Bewley Laguta Sayfutdinov Kolodziej or Kubera Fricke Expect:- Bewley, Fricke, Dudek, Woffinden, Thomsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 My picks: Sayfutdinov, Kolodziej, Thomsen, Bewley & Fricke. Expected picks: Thomsen, Bewley, Woffinden, Fricke & Janowski / Kubera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, CB252 said: You can find a reason to invalidate most speedway world titles of you look hard enough. Emil removed himself from the series for some of his prime years, invalidating what? A Woffinden title? One of Hancock's? Woffinden was also the primary beneficiary of Ward's indiscretions and ultimate injury arguably. And Doyle. See what I did there? Laguta and Sayfutdinov had their chance to beat Bartosz over a full Ekstraliga season and failed spectacularly once again this year, just as they did last year. Imagine thinking that Rosberg is better than Hamilton because he just about beat him once in one out of 5 seasons. It's the epitomy of stupidity. 7 medals in 8 years for Zmarzlik with or without the Russians. Seriously, I get you all hate him, but you refute facts when making a weak argument and make yourselves look daft. I'm not saying they are better. I'm saying they need to be there so that Zmarzlik can prove he is better than them. I do think he'd still win, but without proving it we cannot be sure. After all, he didn't win the last time they were in it. Yes, I see what you did there. You mentioned issues that were speedway related or down to the riders themselves. That is not the case here. I mean, suppose Rickarsson and Pedersen were banned for some reason. Does Jason Crump then become the best rider of all time by default? He would, after all, have probably won 8 world titles. Ekstrliga is irrelevant. That's league form. Erik Gundersen failed spectacularly to show he was better than Hans Nielsen in the British League. When it came to World finals he had his number. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: My picks: Sayfutdinov, Kolodziej, Thomsen, Bewley & Fricke. Expected picks: Thomsen, Bewley, Woffinden, Fricke & Janowski / Kubera? Interesting you choose Sayfutdinov but not Laguta considering Laguta is an undefeated World Champion. I think if you have one you need both. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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